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Old 09-17-2012, 04:06 PM  
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Romney: 47% of Americans are victims

I guess this maybe the kill shot for his campaign. I know some of you believe you this and won't find a problem with what he said but as a person running for POTUS you probably shouldn't write off 1/2 the country especially in a disparaging way.

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A hidden camera video of Mitt Romney at a fundraiser shows him talking disparagingly of people who will vote for President Obama.

Said Romney: "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what...These are people who pay no income tax."

He adds: "My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:22 PM   #181
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Mittens knows he is dead meat. He just held a hastily arranged PC and took 3 questions.

Yahoo News' Holly Bailey reports Romney took three questions at the press conference in Orange County, CA. Her tweets:
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Romney says his argument wasn't "elegantly stated" but suggests he stands by the jist of his message in the video

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Romney: "This is the same message i give to people" in public

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Romney walks away when asked if they are "core convictions" and what he believes. Just three q's
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:24 PM   #182
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HE shouldn't apologize for saying any of it. It wasn't mean, it was true.


If you're offended by that, you're probably an entitlement anchor of some sort.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:25 PM   #183
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Don't pretend that there are no sources regarding taking baby steps towards single payer or towards making efficient cost-effective energy less cost-effective through demonization and regulation, or towards spreading the wealth around that those entrepreneurs didn't build or earn, or that I haven't already discussed them here before.
He did health care reform; regulation and clean energy is standard Democratic Party policy; he's completely open about returning to pre-Bush tax rates for wealthy.

You make it sound so sinister, like saying that Romney is the spearhead of a Mormon takeover of the country that once so strongly ran it to the wilderness.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:26 PM   #184
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HE shouldn't apologize for saying any of it. It wasn't mean, it was true.

If you're offended by that, you're probably an entitlement anchor of some sort.
What conservatives crassly deem as "class warfare" doesn't offend you, I suppose.

Because if this isn't that, nothing is.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:27 PM   #185
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HE shouldn't apologize for saying any of it. It wasn't mean, it was true.


If you're offended by that, you're probably an entitlement anchor of some sort.
It's true 47% of Americans believe they are victims?
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:27 PM   #186
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So Obamas views/words are a concern but Romneys are benign. Got it. All cleared up now.
And you complain that I don't 'answer your questions?'

Again, I laid out my rationale.

One can be conscientious about life, sanctity and conscience without being a steamroller. It gets much more difficult when it comes from opportunity versus government largess.
'Legal, safe and rare' was a perfectly reasonable compromise in the Clinton era [particularly when Bubba exhaled his 'raaaaaarrrrrrre' for like a week and a half, where pro-lifers who were otherwise liberals squeed in delight while out-and-out Dems ignored it completely ]. And it seemed to pay dividends in lowered abortion rates.
The problem with compromise in fiscal realm is that the middle ground is a morass of 'shovel ready jobs' being a front for 'no show contracts' like the Sopranos were so, . . . effective, . . . in negotiating. Crony Capitalism.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:27 PM   #187
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Maybe Mittens is talking about his own supporters. Look at all these deadbeat losers

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Old 09-17-2012, 09:29 PM   #188
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It's true 47% of Americans believe they are victims?
They blame their lack of success on the system, yes. I don't know if it's 47% but it's high and most of them are pathetic slugs who have learned to live off the system and yes they all will vote for Obama for obvious reasons.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:30 PM   #189
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Maybe Mittens is talking about his own supporters. Look at all these deadbeat losers

I don't know one dead beat that is not voting for Obama and I don't know one small business owner that is. Nice attempt at a spin though.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:31 PM   #190
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I'm glad he said it, hell I might even vote for him now.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:31 PM   #191
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They blame their lack of success on the system, yes. I don't know if it's 47% but it's high and most of them are pathetic slugs who have learned to live off the system and yes they all will vote for Obama for obvious reasons.
The majority are white and probably vote Republican.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:36 PM   #192
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The majority are white and probably vote Republican.
Yeah, but they need the SS because [some medical issue], unlike the blacks on the other side of town who use it because they are [lazy, stupid, mating like rabbits].
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I am not going to pretend to know the exact number but it is really high. I went back home in Oregon and a friend wanted to hook up for a beer. Bunch of guys at the bar bitching about Romney and his taxation policy. I asked the group how much they paid in taxes last year. It got real quiet. We are just a big fat ass Greece when it comes to lazy ass people who feel entitled. Heaven forbid they can't drink on the man.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:36 PM   #194
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They blame their lack of success on the system, yes. I don't know if it's 47% but it's high and most of them are pathetic slugs who have learned to live off the system and yes they all will vote for Obama for obvious reasons.
Big Daddy, sure there are lazy do nothing sponges on the taxpayer dime in that 47%. Yet.....

In that 47% you have retirees, people on social security, disability and military troops. I dont have the % but its not a small% of that 47%.

And FTR, I'm in favor of a minimum tax.
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The majority are white and probably vote Republican.
Small business owners are the backbone of this country, period. You can try and put a racial slant on it all you want. If it wasn't for them this country would suck ass. Obama is for slackers and unions, the last thing he is for is the business owners that make it all happen.
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