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Old 09-17-2012, 04:06 PM  
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Romney: 47% of Americans are victims

I guess this maybe the kill shot for his campaign. I know some of you believe you this and won't find a problem with what he said but as a person running for POTUS you probably shouldn't write off 1/2 the country especially in a disparaging way.

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A hidden camera video of Mitt Romney at a fundraiser shows him talking disparagingly of people who will vote for President Obama.

Said Romney: "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what...These are people who pay no income tax."

He adds: "My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:38 PM   #196
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I don't know one dead beat that is not voting for Obama and I don't know one small business owner that is. Nice attempt at a spin though.
Sweet, lowest percentage of worthless shitheads not paying taxes up here. I can live with that.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:39 PM   #197
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Small business owners are the backbone of this country, period. You can try and put a racial slant on it all you want. If it wasn't for them this country would suck ass. Obama is for slackers and unions, the last thing he is for is the business owners that make it all happen.
Then why did the republicans kill a tax incentive/cut for small businesses this summer that Obama proposed?
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:40 PM   #198
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Small business owners are the backbone of this country, period. You can try and put a racial slant on it all you want. If it wasn't for them this country would suck ass. Obama is for slackers and unions, the last thing he is for is the business owners that make it all happen.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:44 PM   #199
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I'm glad he said it, hell I might even vote for him now.
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Where are these free loading liberals located in the USA? ...uhhhh lets see...maybe just a post or two in front of your post. The bubble man, get out every once in a while.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:45 PM   #200
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You can ignore reality all you want. Obama getting re-elected is probably the best thing that can happen at this point. He will bring the whole system down and once the spigot is turned off they will be crying in the streets wondering where their free handout went just like Greece. You killed the golden goose bro. Small business is already adapting. Cash businesses are all the rage now. All you need to do is look at Italy to see how business in the future will be done here. Big money is leaving the country or bracing for the fallout. Paulson fund is in 40% gold right now.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:48 PM   #201
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I don't know one dead beat that is not voting for Obama and I don't know one small business owner that is.
I've met a few business owners that are supporting obama, disgusting really, however race and liberal-self-hating-white-guilt trump common sense it would appear.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:48 PM   #202
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Small business owners are the backbone of this country, period. You can try and put a racial slant on it all you want. If it wasn't for them this country would suck ass. Obama is for slackers and unions, the last thing he is for is the business owners that make it all happen.
No one said anything about small business owners. You said all the slackers vote for Obama which clearly isn't true. All you have to do is look at that map that shows what states have the most people that pay no income tax.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:48 PM   #203
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Vote Romney, or else you're a freeloading bum.

Yeah, that's a great outlook.
Gross exaggeration. Conflation of the first order.

Let's all change the subject and ignore the Presidents gross failure.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:49 PM   #204
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You can ignore reality all you want. Obama getting re-elected is probably the best thing that can happen at this point. He will bring the whole system down and once the spigot is turned off they will be crying in the streets wondering where their free handout went just like Greece. You killed the golden goose bro. Small business is already adapting. Cash businesses are all the rage now. All you need to do is look at Italy to see how business in the future will be done here. Big money is leaving the country or bracing for the fallout. Paulson find is in 40% gold right now.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:50 PM   #205
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What conservatives crassly deem as "class warfare" doesn't offend you, I suppose.
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Because if this isn't that, nothing is.
I grew up poor. I know a lot of people who have been or are still in a poverty level.

Quite a few of those people are not lazy, but have made decisions in their lives that have limited their income and yes, most of them are glad to have a handout.


It doesn't offend me because I think there is 1 way to get out of poverty regardless of your path...hard work. Be it through education, employment, lifestyle choices.

I definitely believe in picking yourself up by the boot straps. So no, class warfare doesn't bother me when it's going both ways. No reason the democrats should be the only group allowed to use that card.

Why is it offensive to mention welfare like it's not known that it's a free lunch for the democratic candidates, but it IS if the Repubs point that out? I didn't hear Romney say anything disparaging about those people, only that they're in Obama's pocket.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:51 PM   #206
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Then why did the republicans kill a tax incentive/cut for small businesses this summer that Obama proposed?
Romney is a POS and this whole disaster really got it's steam starting with Bush. That said there is simply no excuse for voting for a guy with no concept of fiscal responsibility who had a chance to save us but instead put the pedal to the metal and aimed our country straight at that brick wall.
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Where are these free loading liberals located in the USA? ...uhhhh lets see...maybe just a post or two in front of your post. The bubble man, get out every once in a while.
Every person I have met in the last 4+ yrs that supports obama is on gov't assistance or employed in the public sector.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:54 PM   #208
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Every person I have met in the last 4+ yrs that supports obama is on gov't assistance or employed in the public sector.
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YES!!!!! That is right on the money.
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You can ignore reality all you want. Obama getting re-elected is probably the best thing that can happen at this point. He will bring the whole system down and once the spigot is turned off they will be crying in the streets wondering where their free handout went just like Greece. You killed the golden goose bro. Small business is already adapting. Cash businesses are all the rage now. All you need to do is look at Italy to see how business in the future will be done here. Big money is leaving the country or bracing for the fallout. Paulson find is in 40% gold right now.
Scare tactics. I think that's a good marketing move for the Romney campaign.

Video of Greece/London-like riots. Camera falls on a child roaming the streets in ragged clothes amidst the violence. Child turns head and stares back at camera, slowly zooming into face. In a fade, there's a flashback. The camera is focused on a younger child being held in his mother's arms (it's the roaming child, a couple years earlier). Camera shot of mother in voting booth. Cut to mother's ballot, we see her check "Barack Obama," and slide the ballot into the voting slot. Mother walks out. Camera follows, then is still, watches the mother and child walk out, and child turns head and stares back at camera.

Cut to black screen. Then the words: The future is in your hands. Still screen. A sober voice. "I'm Mitt Romney, and I approve this message."
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I grew up poor. I know a lot of people who have been or are still in a poverty level.

Quite a few of those people are not lazy, but have made decisions in their lives that have limited their income and yes, most of them are glad to have a handout.

It doesn't offend me because I think there is 1 way to get out of poverty regardless of your path...hard work. Be it through education, employment, lifestyle choices.

I definitely believe in picking yourself up by the boot straps. So no, class warfare doesn't bother me when it's going both ways. No reason the democrats should be the only group allowed to use that card.

Why is it offensive to mention welfare like it's not known that it's a free lunch for the democratic candidates, but it IS if the Repubs point that out? I didn't hear Romney say anything disparaging about those people, only that they're in Obama's pocket.
It's offensive because it's a crass, blanket intended to demean, and then he directly implied his job is not to care about them. He said they expect food and shelter. And implied that they therefore must be in the tank for Obama. And he cited a 47% figure that lumps in the elderly and much of the middle class. That 47% figure included you, if your story about your history is to be believed, for much of your life. And "quite a few" of the other people you respect who were in similar conditions but not content to sit back and collect welfare.

And he did all this on the dime of a Party that believes offending the rich is something called "class warfare."

Other than that, you're doing great.

The Republican Party and its nominee proved tonight that they have no problem with class warfare. They only care if it's targeting the wealthy.
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