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Old 09-17-2012, 04:06 PM  
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Romney: 47% of Americans are victims

I guess this maybe the kill shot for his campaign. I know some of you believe you this and won't find a problem with what he said but as a person running for POTUS you probably shouldn't write off 1/2 the country especially in a disparaging way.

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A hidden camera video of Mitt Romney at a fundraiser shows him talking disparagingly of people who will vote for President Obama.

Said Romney: "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what...These are people who pay no income tax."

He adds: "My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:09 PM   #616
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This will end up benefitting Romney because he's going to be asked about it several times over the next few days and that will give him the chance to say exactly what he was talking about in those off-the-cuff remarks. People will find it incredibly reasonable. It will make those who are hyperventilating over this and declaring his candidacy dead look ridiculous.
His biggest problem is that he is lying. He's going to have a difficult time providing any data that suggests 47% of people believe they are victims.
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:15 PM   #617
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This will end up benefitting Romney because he's going to be asked about it several times over the next few days and that will give him the chance to say exactly what he was talking about in those off-the-cuff remarks. People will find it incredibly reasonable. It will make those who are hyperventilating over this and declaring his candidacy dead look ridiculous.
Yeah, right. As if he wants to be talking about this. If you're explaining what you meant, you're losing.

If he was smart, he'd go ahead and release the rest of his 2011 tax return to at least change the subject (sort of). Might as well get that out of the way. But, I'm sure his campaign knows what they are doing.
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:40 PM   #618
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This will end up benefitting Romney because he's going to be asked about it several times over the next few days and that will give him the chance to say exactly what he was talking about in those off-the-cuff remarks. People will find it incredibly reasonable. It will make those who are hyperventilating over this and declaring his candidacy dead look ridiculous.
You have to be getting paid to say this stuff.
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:42 PM   #619
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You have to be getting paid to say this stuff.
The whole concept of how business works is really and alien concept to you, isn't it?

Maybe you can explain how you grow an economy from the middle out?
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:09 AM   #620
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Romney is a phony baloney.

Sarah Palin landed a strong punch when she said in her convention speech, that Obama would say one thing in San Francisco and another thing in Scranton, after he made the "clinging to guns and religion" explanation at a fundraiser.

Now the GOP has a nominee that says twenty different things to big bucks donors and then lies to the public about what he really thinks and who he really is.

It is funny that Romney played the "please show the full speech" card and now the whole thing is posted and shows more and more embarrassing things.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:46 AM   #621
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Romney is a phony baloney.

Sarah Palin landed a strong punch when she said in her convention speech, that Obama would say one thing in San Francisco and another thing in Scranton, after he made the "clinging to guns and religion" explanation at a fundraiser.

Now the GOP has a nominee that says twenty different things to big bucks donors and then lies to the public about what he really thinks and who he really is.

It is funny that Romney played the "please show the full speech" card and now the whole thing is posted and shows more and more embarrassing things.
it is funny...

in a sad sorta way...

but still ironic and amusing...
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:20 AM   #622
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His biggest problem is that he is lying. He's going to have a difficult time providing any data that suggests 47% of people believe they are victims.
He doesn't have to unless he's trying to earn the too-literal moron vote.
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:53 AM   #623
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He doesn't have to unless he's trying to earn the too-literal moron vote.
The problem I have with Republicans like you isn't the differences in policy views, that's all fine and good. It's that Republicans like you are dickheads.
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:24 AM   #624
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I'm glad this will be the discussion. Everyone I know is glad we're now having this discussion because it's true.

It seems simple either you either want a chance to succeed on your own merrits in which case you'll vote Romney.
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You want the govt to take care of your worthless ass which results in an Obama vote.

The concern of course is the nanny state has grown too large. Personally I don't want a handout and I'm confident in my ability to provide for my family that's how I was raised. I understand that creating jobs broadens the tax base and helps everyone you just have to have enough people willing to work. Hence Romney gets my vote.

Many less fortunate types had parents or single parent that didn't convey this same work ethic to their children because they themselves don't possess it. It is these people that will vote Obama unless they are too ****ing lazy to get out of bed and actually go vote.
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:05 AM   #625
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I'm glad this will be the discussion. Everyone I know is glad we're now having this discussion because it's true.

It seems simple either you either want a chance to succeed on your own merrits in which case you'll vote Romney.
or
You want the govt to take care of your worthless ass which results in an Obama vote.

The concern of course is the nanny state has grown too large. Personally I don't want a handout and I'm confident in my ability to provide for my family that's how I was raised. I understand that creating jobs broadens the tax base and helps everyone you just have to have enough people willing to work. Hence Romney gets my vote.

Many less fortunate types had parents or single parent that didn't convey this same work ethic to their children because they themselves don't possess it. It is these people that will vote Obama unless they are too ****ing lazy to get out of bed and actually go vote.
Nice false dichotomy, bro.
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Sounds good. I hope you're able to overcome your class bigotry some day.
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It is these people that will vote Obama unless they are too ****ing lazy to get out of bed and actually go vote.
Yea, ive said before a lot of this election hinges on voter turnout. I personally think its going to be low. Romney doesn’t excite a lot of traditional conservatives, Obama has lost a lot of his supporters. I think only like 40-50% of eligible aged voters actually vote in a typical election anyways.
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This will end up benefitting Romney
This is good news!!! FOR JOHN MCCAIN!
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I'm glad this will be the discussion. Everyone I know is glad we're now having this discussion because it's true.

It seems simple either you either want a chance to succeed on your own merrits in which case you'll vote Romney.
or
You want the govt to take care of your worthless ass which results in an Obama vote.

The concern of course is the nanny state has grown too large. Personally I don't want a handout and I'm confident in my ability to provide for my family that's how I was raised. I understand that creating jobs broadens the tax base and helps everyone you just have to have enough people willing to work. Hence Romney gets my vote.

Many less fortunate types had parents or single parent that didn't convey this same work ethic to their children because they themselves don't possess it. It is these people that will vote Obama unless they are too ****ing lazy to get out of bed and actually go vote.
Are you saying my Mom wants the govt to take care of her worthless ass for being on SS and Medicare?
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Are you saying my Mom wants the govt to take care of her worthless ass for being on SS and Medicare?
Is she planning on voting for Obama?
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