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Old 09-17-2012, 04:06 PM  
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Romney: 47% of Americans are victims

I guess this maybe the kill shot for his campaign. I know some of you believe you this and won't find a problem with what he said but as a person running for POTUS you probably shouldn't write off 1/2 the country especially in a disparaging way.

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A hidden camera video of Mitt Romney at a fundraiser shows him talking disparagingly of people who will vote for President Obama.

Said Romney: "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what...These are people who pay no income tax."

He adds: "My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:15 PM   #661
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I'm simply analyzing what Romney actually said - which none of you seem to grasp or care that it makes zero sense.

4,000 millionaires in Romney's '47%'
I agree that what he actually said makes no sense. That's why it takes something other than pure literalism to understand what he meant.

It would be completely embarrassing if it were a scripted moment at a public campaign event, but it's not. It's an off-the-cuff remark to a private gathering and all that he was interested in doing was communicating with those people. I'm confident that every person in that room understood what he was saying. I understand what he was saying. You could too if you had any real interest in it.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:43 PM   #662
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I agree that what he actually said makes no sense. That's why it takes something other than pure literalism to understand what he meant.
Seriously, it is as if the whole "You didn't build that" thing never happened. The memory has been wiped clean, and you have no issues with complaining about context, being too literal, etc. It's fascinating how the right-wing mind works (or doesn't).

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It would be completely embarrassing if it were a scripted moment at a public campaign event, but it's not. It's an off-the-cuff remark to a private gathering and all that he was interested in doing was communicating with those people. I'm confident that every person in that room understood what he was saying. I understand what he was saying. You could too if you had any real interest in it.
This is what happens when the teleprompter doesn't tell Mitt what to say.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:53 PM   #663
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I agree that what he actually said makes no sense. That's why it takes something other than pure literalism to understand what he meant.

It would be completely embarrassing if it were a scripted moment at a public campaign event, but it's not. It's an off-the-cuff remark to a private gathering and all that he was interested in doing was communicating with those people. I'm confident that every person in that room understood what he was saying. I understand what he was saying. You could too if you had any real interest in it.
You sway your interpretation to fit your view. That simple. It doesn't take a brainiac to understand that he's saying **** you to half the country. Any other view is nothing more than bullshit.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:56 PM   #664
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I get it. It's no fun hearing the hard truths of grown up talk. Much more enjoyable to be rocked to sleep with the sound of democrat fairy tales in your ears.
There's nothing so glorious as people gulping down childlike, absurdly unrealistic views of how the world works while boasting about how adult they are to be dealing with such "hard truths" like "I'm a hard-working CONTRIBUTOR to society, not like those leeches* who are ruining everything."

*the 50% of the population who control 1-3% of the wealth in America
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:01 PM   #665
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:08 PM   #666
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*the 50% of the population who control 1-3% of the wealth in America
Sounds like those people should work harder (or smarter or better).
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:11 PM   #667
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Sounds like those people should work harder (or smarter or better).
Have you ever spent time in the inner-city? Ever worked with disaffected youth or people on welfare? Ever worked a soup kitchen on Thanksgiving?

If the answer is "Yes", this comment sounds even more ignorant and elitist.
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:11 PM   #668
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Sounds like those people should work harder (or smarter or better).
Yes, those damn soldiers, retirees and students need to get their shit together and start contributing.
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:12 PM   #669
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Sounds like those people should work harder (or smarter or better).
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(the belief in which is not at all a childlike, self-aggrandizing worldview, of course)
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:13 PM   #670
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Have you ever spent time in the inner-city? Ever worked with disaffected youth or people on welfare? Ever worked a soup kitchen on Thanksgiving?

If the answer is "Yes", this comment sounds even more ignorant and elitist.
Lol. Donger is the most detached poster on the board. His views don't expand further then his bedroom, newspaper and T.V.

It's not even a question worth asking.

I still love ya though, Donger.
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:15 PM   #671
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Lol. Donger is the most detached poster on the board. His views don't expand further then his bedroom, newspaper and T.V.
I think Patteau wins that award, hands down.
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:18 PM   #673
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Sounds like those people should work harder (or smarter or better).
Thank goodness you came along and provided a solid means out. Are you actually implying that all they have to do is work harder, smarter or better?

The notion that all people have to do is work harder in this country to obtain wealth is a silly one. Yes, there's a quasi-opportunity there, but let's be realistic. For all intensive purposes there is only a finite amount of money in this country (I'm not going to get into the obama's printing money debate so don't even go there). How is everybody going to get that wealth by working harder, faster, smarter?
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:21 PM   #674
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Yes, those damn soldiers, retirees and students need to get their shit together and start contributing.
I'm one of those damn soldiers that got out of the service (never making $40k/yr), have been working my azz off harder, faster and smarter and now earn 6 figures. No one here is going to tell me that it can't be done because it can. And, if you don't think that it can be done, enjoy your welfare
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I'm one of those damn soldiers that got out of the service (never making $40k/yr), have been working my azz off harder, faster and smarter and now earn 6 figures. No one here is going to tell me that it can't be done because it can. And, if you don't think that it can be done, enjoy your welfare
Because the belief that it can or cannot be done is directly related to a person being on welfare....
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