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Old 09-17-2012, 05:06 PM  
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Romney: 47% of Americans are victims

I guess this maybe the kill shot for his campaign. I know some of you believe you this and won't find a problem with what he said but as a person running for POTUS you probably shouldn't write off 1/2 the country especially in a disparaging way.

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A hidden camera video of Mitt Romney at a fundraiser shows him talking disparagingly of people who will vote for President Obama.

Said Romney: "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what...These are people who pay no income tax."

He adds: "My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:40 PM   #781
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pride for that.
Jesus ****. No offense Dude but I'd delete this post. The internet is forever. You don't want your kids to stumble upon this gem.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:58 PM   #782
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Hmm, too bad we both have too much pride for that.
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:45 AM   #783
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You liberals are some funny characters, it's nothing but attack with you, regardless of basis, make an accusation get proved otherwise , find another thing no matter how petty to attack. Oh shit a grammar error while typing on a phone.
Unable to formulate your own opinions, only repeat the propaganda you have been fed to pursue your agenda. Unable to use reason or logic or come to your own conclusions.
Truly pathetic.
Here you go:
Go **** yourself, you are a morally ****ed worthless piece of shit excuse for a human being. Your bullshit beliefs are destroying this country, and the people you supposedly care about are suffering due to your actions. You have attempted to and are destroying the greatest country this world has ever seen. You do injustice to the brave men that fought and continue to fight on your behalf, so that you may sleep peacefully in your bed. You thank them by destroying the future of this country for their children to fix.
As I said earlier, go **** yourself.
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:50 AM   #784
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XKy6...&feature=g-u-u

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So Romney is in trouble for telling the truth about a lie. Why is everyone so upset? Because Romney dared to mention that about half of Americans don't pay any income tax, and so aren't likely to be tempted by tax cuts? What shocking revelations are we going to hear next? That you can't sell Nicorette to people who don't smoke? That supermodels aren't hugely interested in books on weightlifting?

Of course the growth in entitlements is shocking, and of course Republicans focus on the entitlements of the poor, and Democrats focus on the entitlements of the rich -- but please, if you can tie your shoe laces by now, you must be aware that these are all just a bunch of shiny polished sociopaths who will tell you whatever you want to hear so they can pilfer your pockets and sell off your children.

Sure, entitlement growth is pretty jaw-dropping -- in 1960, the US government transferred about $24 billion to individuals -- by 2010, that total was almost 100 times larger, in constant dollars. Once you adjust for inflation and population growth, entitlement transfers have grown 727 percent over the last 50 years.

So yeah, it's a big, increasing and totally predictable problem -- but why on earth are Republicans talking about it? Oh, right, because Republicans are so against entitlement spending? Well, except for the inconvenient fact that entitlement spending rises 8% faster when Republicans are in charge.

Did you know that many low income earners don't even have a clue that they don't pay income tax? In a recent poll, 50% of people who earn less than $30,000 a year said the amount they pay in income taxes is too high -- but more than 80% of those people didn't pay a penny in income tax.

Of course poorer people receiving government handouts tend to be more into the Democrats - low income voters, who pay no income tax, and probably qualify for rent subsidies, food stamps and Medicaid, voted overwhelmingly for Obama. Three quarters of people earning less than $15,000 a year voted for Obama, at least according to exit polls.

So what? What about the military-industrial complex? What about fascist style corporate welfare? Romney wants to increase the military budget - but remember, welfare for the rich is just national defense.

If Romney is against people benefiting from entitlements, then why is he so devoted to seniors, who usually pay no income tax, and receive Social Security. If Obama buys popularity with welfare payouts, why are more and more seniors voting Republican - is it because government payouts to them have increased?

Come on people, it's all nonsense, it's all theater - no one is talking about the endless wars, or the fact that the Holy Nobel Peace Prize president continues to wage wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, decided unilaterally to bomb Libya, maintains a kill list, and rains down drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen (pop quiz -- do you think this bothers them more than a YouTube video?) Is anyone talking about the fact that in 2008, the official unemployment rate was 6.5%, and now it is over 8%, or the fact that the national debt has risen from 10 trillion to 16 trillion in just 4 years, or the fact that a gallon of gas has risen from $2.07 to $3.85, or that 47 million Americans are on food stamps, up from 30 million in November 2008?

It's all theater, they're just telling you what you want to hear, the facts tell the truth. Four years ago, Obama said, "We're going to have to take on entitlements and I think we've got to do it quickly." He really really wanted to do it his first term as president.

But then he got elected, and he jumped out of our bed, promising to call, while we lay there depressed and soiled and violated.
Romney will be no different. Step out of the theater, it's a great and beautiful world out here -- and remember, rational cynicism is just politics plus time.
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:51 AM   #785
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You liberals are some funny characters, it's nothing but attack with you, regardless of basis, make an accusation get proved otherwise , find another thing no matter how petty to attack. Oh shit a grammar error while typing on a phone.
Unable to formulate your own opinions, only repeat the propaganda you have been fed to pursue your agenda. Unable to use reason or logic or come to your own conclusions.
Truly pathetic.
Here you go:
Go **** yourself, you are a morally ****ed worthless piece of shit excuse for a human being. Your bullshit beliefs are destroying this country, and the people you supposedly care about are suffering due to your actions. You have attempted to and are destroying the greatest country this world has ever seen. You do injustice to the brave men that fought and continue to fight on your behalf, so that you may sleep peacefully in your bed. You thank them by destroying the future of this country for their children to fix.
As I said earlier, go **** yourself.
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Old 09-20-2012, 01:22 AM   #786
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You liberals are some funny characters, it's nothing but attack with you, regardless of basis, make an accusation get proved otherwise , find another thing no matter how petty to attack. Oh shit a grammar error while typing on a phone.
Unable to formulate your own opinions, only repeat the propaganda you have been fed to pursue your agenda. Unable to use reason or logic or come to your own conclusions.
Truly pathetic.
Here you go:
Go **** yourself, you are a morally ****ed worthless piece of shit excuse for a human being. Your bullshit beliefs are destroying this country, and the people you supposedly care about are suffering due to your actions. You have attempted to and are destroying the greatest country this world has ever seen. You do injustice to the brave men that fought and continue to fight on your behalf, so that you may sleep peacefully in your bed. You thank them by destroying the future of this country for their children to fix.
As I said earlier, go **** yourself.
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Old 09-20-2012, 01:23 AM   #787
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Old 09-20-2012, 01:24 AM   #788
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Good points.
On one hand at least the welfare handed out by republicans is going to those that actually contribute positively to the country.
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:08 AM   #789
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Do you or Mitt Romney pay net $0 taxes?
Pretty good chance Romney did at some point or he'd be releasing his returns.
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Has it crossed your mind that I knew her, her circumstances, and her actions. Hence the reason I have only 1 statistic that is my wife's friend. Has it crossed your mind that she has no desire to work more and also that she is not alone in this country, there are many more that do exactly the same thing.
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I decided to follow Dane's lead.

However, I truly hope, for your birth control practices sake, that Obama gets reelected so everyone else has to pay for your choice not to have another baby when you're not ready.
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Old 09-20-2012, 09:08 AM   #792
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So Romney is in trouble for telling the truth about a lie. Why is everyone so upset? Because Romney dared to mention that about half of Americans don't pay any income tax, and so aren't likely to be tempted by tax cuts?
The author of this article must have missed the next line or two in the speech when dummy said that those same Americans who don't pay income tax refuse to take responsibility for their own lives. That's the most damning line in the entire speech.

His point about those people not being tempted by tax cuts is a valid point.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:57 AM   #793
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FYP.
That's not what I said, nor what I meant.
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You liberals are some funny characters, it's nothing but attack with you, regardless of basis, make an accusation get proved otherwise , find another thing no matter how petty to attack. Oh shit a grammar error while typing on a phone.
Unable to formulate your own opinions, only repeat the propaganda you have been fed to pursue your agenda. Unable to use reason or logic or come to your own conclusions.
Truly pathetic.
Here you go:
Go **** yourself, you are a morally ****ed worthless piece of shit excuse for a human being. Your bullshit beliefs are destroying this country, and the people you supposedly care about are suffering due to your actions. You have attempted to and are destroying the greatest country this world has ever seen. You do injustice to the brave men that fought and continue to fight on your behalf, so that you may sleep peacefully in your bed. You thank them by destroying the future of this country for their children to fix.
As I said earlier, go **** yourself.
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:05 PM   #795
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Anyone who would vote to re-elect the worst president in my lifetime and one of the worst all-time just to keep a dem in office is less than intelligent and deserves whatever bad things happen to them from the fallout and probably a lot more. Should you be drowning in the future may life throw you a brick because that is exactly what you are doing to us as a country.
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