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Old 09-23-2012, 08:06 AM  
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Just saw my first Obama non-attack ad

I live near Iowa and watch their local stations so I've seen a lot of ads.

I finally saw an Obama ad that didn't attack Romney, instead it focused on how bad things were when Obama came to office and how Obama is leading us to the promised land. Forward.

Anyway, one line in the ad states Obama will continue to support (throw your tax dollars) towards green energy.

WTF? Didn't we already learn this lesson? If green energy is going to succeed it only should in the open market.

Obama's elitist policies and call to kill the coal industry should be reason enough for him not to be re-elected. We can't kill our cheapest form of energy and expect to compete in the global economy.

I find it amazing some are still buying his snake oil.
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Old 09-23-2012, 12:40 PM   #16
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Wind farms are big in Iowa.
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:16 PM   #17
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Slow down there hero.

1. Considering fossil fuels are FINITE meaning there is only a limited amount of them, what will replace them if not green energy?

2. When did I ever mention even ONCE in the year and a half I have been on this board that I was cool with Obama killing coal?

3. When should we invest in a replacement for fossil fuels? Should we do it now when we still have enough to meet our needs or should we scramble at the last second when they are almost gone and thusly have no choice?
There's finite, then there's FINITE. Our timeline on coal goes into the 100s of years.
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:23 PM   #18
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There's finite, then there's FINITE. Our timeline on coal goes into the 100s of years.
Populations are still increasing, not decreasing. Do those numbers take the ever increasing populations into effect?
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:31 PM   #19
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I have NO PROBLEM with investing in green energy RESEARCH.. but that is NOT what this administration's primary focus has been. Instead they are focused on ADOPTION. They are trying to accomplish this by subsidizing the not-ready-for-primetime green energy sector WHILE doing everything they can to kill the fossil fuel industry.

It's beyond stupid. It's short sighted and likely to backfire.
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:34 PM   #20
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I have NO PROBLEM with investing in green energy RESEARCH.. but that is NOT what this administration's primary focus has been. Instead they are focused on ADOPTION. They are trying to accomplish this by subsidizing the not-ready-for-primetime green energy sector WHILE doing everything they can to kill the fossil fuel industry.

It's beyond stupid. It's short sighted and likely to backfire.
I can agree with that, but to not invest in green energy research is foolhardy at best.
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:41 PM   #21
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I can agree with that, but to not invest in green energy research is foolhardy at best.
I agree, unfortunately politicians don't have a scrap of patience and rarely look at the big picture.
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:43 PM   #22
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While I wouldn't be reminding people about Solyndra (SP) when you see an add like that you know who's winning.

Too bad Romney is such a $hit candidate
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Old 09-23-2012, 02:14 PM   #23
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I have NO PROBLEM with investing in green energy RESEARCH.. but that is NOT what this administration's primary focus has been. Instead they are focused on ADOPTION. They are trying to accomplish this by subsidizing the not-ready-for-primetime green energy sector WHILE doing everything they can to kill the fossil fuel industry.

It's beyond stupid. It's short sighted and likely to backfire.
Yup, and was my point.
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Old 09-23-2012, 02:18 PM   #24
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Yup, and was my point.
I know, but it was such a good point I felt like I should steal it!
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Old 09-23-2012, 02:29 PM   #25
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I know, but it was such a good point I felt like I should steal it!
Hey it's your board.

Well, and you're much more eloquent then I am.
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Old 09-23-2012, 02:36 PM   #26
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Sure, lets sit on our hands and let the Chinese get a monopoly on that market. Go America!
Link? The Chinese are investing in green technology?
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Old 09-23-2012, 02:52 PM   #27
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I have NO PROBLEM with investing in green energy RESEARCH.. but that is NOT what this administration's primary focus has been. Instead they are focused on ADOPTION. They are trying to accomplish this by subsidizing the not-ready-for-primetime green energy sector WHILE doing everything they can to kill the fossil fuel industry.

It's beyond stupid. It's short sighted and likely to backfire.
Great post. Obama's policies and unfortunately our sheep governer are killing the Coal industry in WV. While I can agree that green alternative solutions are needed, Coal is the economical mainstay of WV and killing it almost equates to killing this state. Yet Biden claims Obama considers the common man before every decision.
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Old 09-23-2012, 03:00 PM   #28
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Here in FL, I just keep seeing the Obama attack ad saying Romney will ship all our jobs to China. Over and over and freaking over.
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Old 09-23-2012, 04:36 PM   #29
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Link? The Chinese are investing in green technology?
Google this: Chinese green technology
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Old 09-23-2012, 06:01 PM   #30
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Google this: Chinese green technology
Made in China? A History of Reverse Engineering
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