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Old 09-23-2012, 11:55 PM  
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Walterfootball.com has KC picking #8 overall

yeah, yeah... only week 3 and a lot of shit can change from now to draft date. this is the ONLY thing that will make me renew my season tix next year.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2013.php



My only hope is that he has an off game or two... Lord knows Pioli won't trade up for him.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:04 PM   #46
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:05 PM   #47
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smith is going to be a top-5, likely top 2 pick...

we on the other hand are going to be picking around 15 (give or take)...

you do the Pioli Math on that...the start crying
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:16 PM   #48
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smith is going to be a top-5, likely top 2 pick...

we on the other hand are going to be picking around 15 (give or take)...

you do the Pioli Math on that...the start crying
at least we were almost in it for a wild card berth to the very end.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:19 PM   #49
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The last three are doubtful. We need to hope Weeden and gabbert show some promise
Gabbert has actually put together back to back games that weren't complete garbage. And Weeden has performed better after his first week as well.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:20 PM   #50
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You know it's gonna happen:

His fan confidence and draft stock is dropping faster than W. (name withheld) to his knees in a gay bar...

probably a 2nd round Qb at this point.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:22 PM   #51
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His fan confidence and draft stock is dropping faster than W. (name withheld) to his knees in a gay bar...

probably a 2nd round Qb at this point.
I think it's closer to a 5th or 6th. The guy looked like dogshit against K-State. He'd get eaten alive in the NFL at this point.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:25 PM   #52
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Gabbert has actually put together back to back games that weren't complete garbage. And Weeden has performed better after his first week as well.
Gabbert is ascending.

Thank GOD we did not take a chance on him/TF Dumbass McDoodle-****er@!
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:34 PM   #53
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Gabbert is ascending.

Thank GOD we did not take a chance on him/TF Dumbass McDoodle-****er@!
Meanwhile, Matt Ryan looks better than ever under Dirk Koetter (who couldn't get much out of Gabbert) and Gabbert looks better under Mike Mularkey (who had hit a ceiling with Ryan).

Sometimes, players need a new voice. Well, unless that player is Matt Cassel.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:36 PM   #54
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Sometimes, players need a new voice. Well, unless that player is Matt Cassel.
Matt, this is God. Stop playing with yourself.
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Old 09-24-2012, 03:33 PM   #55
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I think it's closer to a 5th or 6th. The guy looked like dogshit against K-State. He'd get eaten alive in the NFL at this point.
I was thinking 3rd.

The size and arm strength will get someone reaching, look at Foles.

I'll never understand why he didn't come out last year. The QB class after the first two was as soft as you'll ever see. There's no way he wouldn't have gone in the 1st round, IMO.
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Old 09-24-2012, 04:06 PM   #56
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He won't be there at 8.

By the end of the season there's going to be another "Luck v. RGIII" conversation w/ Barkley and Smith, though obviously a lesser edition of it. In the end, I don't think it's that unlikely that Smith takes the #1 overall away from Barkley.

I'm seeing less and less I like from Barkley every game. Ultimately I really wish that Murray was a couple inches taller because I've been more impressed by Murray than I have any of the other 'pocket' passers I've seen this season. If the draft was tomorrow and Murray came out early, I'd be the idiot that took him over the taller, more polished Barkley. And I still like Tyler Bray's tools more than both of them, though I haven't seen him play much this year and he's also likely to stay for his SR season.

Brace yourselves, Chiefs fans. But I think this may end up being a pretty shitty QB class. It looks like Geno and a fair number of underclassmen that will probably stay in (Wilson, Bray, Murray) and a few busts waiting to happen (Barkley, Manuel, Jones).

Geno or Bust in 2013!!!!
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The guy might be Matt Ryan/ Carson Palmer. Threads the needle there between a few defenders is able to look off his first read. That right there certainly is an improvement over Cassel and a great throw.
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Old 09-24-2012, 04:10 PM   #57
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The guy might be Matt Ryan/ Carson Palmer. Threads the needle there between a few defenders is able to look off his first read. That right there certainly is an improvement over Cassel and a great throw.
I challenge any person who wants Kasl Jr. in KC to fisticuffs.
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Old 09-24-2012, 04:15 PM   #58
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I challenge any person who wants Kasl Jr. in KC to fisticuffs.
That's really not an accurate comparison though.


How bout a hug?
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I challenge any person who wants Kasl Jr. in KC to fisticuffs.
He's significantly better than Cassel. Cassel can't throw a ball hard enough to keep the noise down.

Barkley has some tools, I just don't think he's an elite QB. Honestly I'd have probably compared him to Flacco a couple of years ago in that you just wonder what it will take for him to get over the hump. Eventually he'd end up sliding into a career as a solid, but unspectacular QB. Flacco's probably right at the cusp of the top 10 and that's probably Barkley's upside as well, but the development process is a spooky think and he may not get there.

He's not a #1 overall caliber prospect, IMO. If he's there for us at 8, sure grab him (because it will almost certainly mean that Smith is gone). He'll be a solid starter in this league and a guy you can probably win with in a few years.

But he still doesn't jump off the page to me.
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