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Old 09-26-2012, 08:23 AM  
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Paging Conservatives: The 2012 Republican POTUS Candidates

This is a thread specifically for Republicans and conservatives on this forum.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I get the sense that just about every one of you really don't like Mitt Romney as a Presidential candidate against Obama. That may not be universally true of all of you folks, but I'd think it's true of much of you, if not nearly all of you.

At the same time, outside of the minority of you who were big on Ron Paul, Romney was unquestionably the best candidate for your party out of the primaries, was he not? At least among the people who were doing anything in the polls. Santorum led at one point, as did Michelle Bachmann but I think all the DC conservatives here hate both. I don't think a single one of you have an ounce of respect for Newt Gingrich or Herman Cain as POTUS candidates (my apologies if you actually do). And Rick Perry was... well, Rick Perry.

Yes, I know most of you would prefer almost all those folks to Obama, but that doesn't change the fact that this seemed like a particularly weak crop.

I am not a conservative or a Republican, but I think compared to previous primary fields for your party, this was a very weak cycle in terms of POTUS candidates.

My question is -- why do you think that is? Why do you think we had such a weak crop of POTUS candidates for your party?

Because right now, it really does seem like the GOP has a deeper bench of people that have Presidential timber than do the Democrats, who outside of Obama and Hillary Clinton, don't really have much of a bench at all. And yet... these candidates didn't seem to have their shit together.

I'm just interested in picking your brains. I'm not even remotely interested in debating or arguing, just wanted to see what your points of view on the subject might be.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:13 AM   #16
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No, not what I said. Not at all.

Of all people how in the world would a raging lib freak like yourself have any idea what is important to Republicans?
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:17 AM   #17
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Of all people how in the world would a raging lib freak like yourself have any idea what is important to Republicans?
Well, for one, by reading the rants of right-wing nuts like you on this board.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:19 AM   #18
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Well, for one, by reading the rants of right-wing nuts like you on this board.
just because we are not gushing over the cult of personality doesn't mean that we don't like the guy...
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:19 AM   #19
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What's funny is I only know a handfull of peeps voting for Obama and I know a shit load of people. Of those people everyone of them is a complete tool not because they voting for Obama, but they are voting for Obama because they are tools
Where do you?
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:19 AM   #20
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I'm not a huge Romney fan, but I do think a businessman is more appropriate to repair our economy than a "US Apologist".

Obama has been every bit as over his head and terrible as I feared and there aren't many legitimate candidates that I wouldn't vote for over him on either party.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:21 AM   #21
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Good Point.

It would be a nice change to have a President who is actually happy and proud to be an American.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:22 AM   #22
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I think another thing that should be very telling is the differences in moral character between Obama supporters and Romney's.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:26 AM   #23
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Good Point.

It would be a nice change to have a President who is actually happy and proud to be an American.
How ****ing stupid. Yes, what we need is someone with bigger lapel pins.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:28 AM   #24
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just because we are not gushing over the cult of personality doesn't mean that we don't like the guy...
Sure you do. He's the least popular party nominee in long, long time (ever?)
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:29 AM   #25
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How ****ing stupid. Yes, what we need is someone with bigger balls.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:31 AM   #26
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It would be a nice change to have a President who is actually happy and proud to be an American.
Yep that is Obama's biggest flaw, which is saying alot. He does not seem to be proud to be an American at all.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:33 AM   #27
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Sure you do. He's the least popular party nominee in long, long time (ever?)
at least that's the narrative the left is pushing...




Ever... Seriously?!?!? McCain?
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:35 AM   #28
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How ****ing stupid. Yes, what we need is someone with bigger lapel pins.
It would be nice to have one without an "I'm sorry" button.
It might also be nice to have one who would meet world leaders during times of turmoil instead of sending the candidate who will run for the seat he's about to lose so he can go on The View.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:35 AM   #29
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Yep that is Obama's biggest flaw, which is saying alot. He does not seem to be proud to be an American at all.
Obama acts more like a shamed family member of a convicted pedo than a Proud American.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:42 AM   #30
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I don't like Mitt Romney because of his liberal past. I don't believe for a minute that he is a conservative. His handlers are making him try to appear conservative, but it isn't fooling me. The problem with the Republican party is that the solid conservatives that are in good standing with the party never want to throw their hats in the ring. It is always the Neocons and people that aren't liked by the typical Republicans. Everyone hypes the next election cycle as the one when there are going to be a field of good candidates, but it never happens. I think that if Rand Paul runs in 2016, he will run away with the nomination and generate the most enthusiasm for a Republican candidate that we've seen since Reagan.'

If someone like Coburn or Demint threw their hats in the rings, I think they could generate a lot of enthusiasm as well.
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