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Old 09-10-2012, 09:01 PM  
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My favorite thing of this election so far...

...has to be Romney's selection of Paul Ryan as his running mate.

You guys do understand this is the guy the Obama campaign has been attempting to pin the entire Republican Party against? That polling for the DNC suggested that telling people Republicans want to privatize social security and turn Medicare into a voucher system was the ticket to victory?

So Obama mentions the guy over and over again, which further raises his profile, and he becomes a poster boy for the Republican Party, because they just can't help themselves. If Obama hates the guy, let's turn him into a hero.

Romney's own advisors, it seems, encouraged Romney not to make this selection. Reportedly it was a decision Romney and his family made intimately.

It's not exactly Sarah Palin, because Sarah Palin was an idiot, whereas Paul Ryan is very smart.

It's about how to frame yourself every election. But the Romney message would ideally being about self-reliance and individualism. Adding Ryan to the ticket takes it even further, and tells the American people: you will be on your own.

Romney and Ryan have been playing defense ever since Ryan's been added to the ticket. And Romney has done the absolute worst thing you can do with Ryan, and has handcuffed him from presenting too many specifics about what he'd like to see done with policy. You shouldn't select Ryan unless you truly unleash the guy to answer 1,001 questions about his budget, which he's willing and capable and EAGER to do.

This may have been a double-whammy, as well. If Romney loses this election, and the numbers right now don't look great, this might very well be the anchor around Ryan's national ambitions past this election.
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Old 09-27-2012, 10:37 AM   #31
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Many of them, but in this case, trying to fix Medicare now instead of letting it continue on its current path toward insolvency.
How is Obamacare paid for, Rick?

Just wondering if you're remotely aware. It does not seem that you are.
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Old 09-27-2012, 10:56 AM   #32
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How is Obamacare paid for, Rick?

Just wondering if you're remotely aware. It does not seem that you are.
I certainly think I am...higher taxes, stealing over $700 billion from Medicare, etc.

How do you think it's paid for?
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:57 PM   #33
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I certainly think I am...higher taxes, stealing over $700 billion from Medicare, etc.

How do you think it's paid for?
What do you mean "stealing" from Medicare?
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Old 09-27-2012, 10:54 PM   #34
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What do you mean "stealing" from Medicare?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterfer...lan-to-obamas/

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But it was Obamacare that already changed Medicare as we know it, transforming it literally into a death trap for seniors. Obamacare cut Medicare by $716 billion over the next 10 years alone, mostly by slashing Medicare payments to doctors and hospitals. And that is just a down-payment on what is to come.
Obama didn't just cut Medicare for the heck of it...the money was "shifted" to pay for Obamacare. In other words, he stole it.
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:05 PM   #35
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Obama didn't just cut Medicare for the heck of it...the money was "shifted" to pay for Obamacare. In other words, he stole it.
That is not a "cut" in Medicare. I'm not a Dem apologist, but this crap is ridiculous. The Medicare benefit does not change, at all. What is cut is the physician reimbursement. Now, if every physician in your area refuses medicare patients, you may have a problem, but that is not likely, at all. Presuming Medicare is good somewhere near you, no cut. Why do you care if your provider gets less taxpayer dollars?
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:15 AM   #36
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That is not a "cut" in Medicare. I'm not a Dem apologist, but this crap is ridiculous. The Medicare benefit does not change, at all. What is cut is the physician reimbursement. Now, if every physician in your area refuses medicare patients, you may have a problem, but that is not likely, at all. Presuming Medicare is good somewhere near you, no cut. Why do you care if your provider gets less taxpayer dollars?
It's definitely a cut in Medicare, it's just not a direct benefit cut. But let's not be confused about this. If provider payments were unimportant to the Medicare system, we could just zero them out.
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