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Old 09-27-2012, 09:22 AM  
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Why I'm Struggling with the Idea of Voting for Romney

I'll say it -- I like him personally and I like him politically. I think he's smart and can be an effective leader. There are things I like about Obama, but things I dislike. As our deficit/debt balloons, I put increasing importance in reining it in.

But when the test comes, Republicans CONSISTENTLY ignore the deficit and instead focus their attention on social issues -- which are diametrically opposed to my positions on such issues.

This article well summarizes why I find it hard to vote for Romney. I'm still undecided, FWIW.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/26/opinio...html?hpt=hp_t2
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:47 AM   #31
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That is quite likely what I would do IF I was more certain that Romney would be better for the economy.

Just to be clear, I think there is a VERY high percentage that the economy recovers in the '13'16 timeframe no matter who we elect. Sure, there's plenty that could screw that up -- Europe's woes worsening or, JFC, a dirty bomb in NYC -- but just based on things that are mostly under our control, the economy should improve.

How much more under one versus the other becomes the real question. Is deregulation really a great idea given how badly the banks screwed up so recently? Are the Republicans going to once again "charge" economic growth on the nation's credit card, ignoring the deficit, as they have done in the past?

Frankly, I don't love or hate either candidate, really, so it's a pretty close call for me. Lots of plusses and minuses for both in my book.

Most here view one or the other as the Anti-Christ, but I don't. Claims that Obama is some kind of Anti-American Islamic Socialist are just lunacy.
You should just vote for Obama since deficits bother you so much.
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:47 AM   #32
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I hope Romney wins mostly because of the comedic effect it will have on the board.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:01 PM   #33
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No, that comes from the few details that Mittens has released on his tax policy.
And what are those details? Link?
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:07 PM   #34
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I hope Romney wins mostly because of the comedic effect it will have on the board.
I hope Obama wins mostly because of the comedic effect it will have on the board. Honestly this board is probably 3 to 1 or 4 to 1 republican. I expect mass suicides if Obama wins.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:21 PM   #35
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I hope Obama wins mostly because of the comedic effect it will have on the board. Honestly this board is probably 3 to 1 or 4 to 1 republican. I expect mass suicides if Obama wins.
Imagine how many Republicans will dominate this board after another four years of historical ineptness...of course we may be posting from another country.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:21 PM   #36
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I have a hard time voting for Romney because he's a god damn RINO.

He's not a true conservative.....not even close.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:44 PM   #37
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I hope Obama wins mostly because of the comedic effect it will have on the board. Honestly this board is probably 3 to 1 or 4 to 1 republican. I expect mass suicides if Obama wins.
People always say that but I don't know if that's true. I think there's almost as many liberals in DC as conservatives. As long as we dispense with the absurd claims of cosmo and suzzer that they're not liberals.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:55 PM   #38
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People always say that but I don't know if that's true. I think there's almost as many liberals in DC as conservatives. As long as we dispense with the absurd claims of cosmo and suzzer that they're not liberals.
Well, that, and I have already conceded the fact that O'DeficitAndTax is going to beat Romney. I think I have a better shot at being The King of England than Romney does of becoming POTUS.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:56 PM   #39
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I look at this as every administration has run on deficit spending. The Clinton administration did change the direction of that. But the question on any deficit spending is how well that deficit money is spent. Things like infrastructure and education has potential for long term payoffs. So does support of research (for example Fracking for Natural Gas was early on Government sponsored). If you make good choices you see return in the long run. The Bush administration chose to invest in military action to put Middle East oil back in play in Iraq. They would have liked to have US industries to work on those fields. None of that happened. (We did get rid of Saddam Hussein which has little return.) Whose is more likely to meet those more ideas and investments that stand to make the better return.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:59 PM   #40
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:02 PM   #41
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That is quite likely what I would do IF I was more certain that Romney would be better for the economy.

Just to be clear, I think there is a VERY high percentage that the economy recovers in the '13'16 timeframe no matter who we elect. Sure, there's plenty that could screw that up -- Europe's woes worsening or, JFC, a dirty bomb in NYC -- but just based on things that are mostly under our control, the economy should improve.

How much more under one versus the other becomes the real question. Is deregulation really a great idea given how badly the banks screwed up so recently? Are the Republicans going to once again "charge" economic growth on the nation's credit card, ignoring the deficit, as they have done in the past?

Frankly, I don't love or hate either candidate, really, so it's a pretty close call for me. Lots of plusses and minuses for both in my book.

Most here view one or the other as the Anti-Christ, but I don't. Claims that Obama is some kind of Anti-American Islamic Socialist are just lunacy.
This is pretty much my view as well. I don't trust Romney on the economy and pretty much think it's on the road to solid recovery, anyway.

I don't have words to describe just how much I dislike the current Republican views on social issues (gay marriage, abortion, immigration, etc.) so Obama gets my vote this time around.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:08 PM   #42
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I'll say it -- I like him personally and I like him politically. I think he's smart and can be an effective leader. There are things I like about Obama, but things I dislike. As our deficit/debt balloons, I put increasing importance in reining it in.

But when the test comes, Republicans CONSISTENTLY ignore the deficit and instead focus their attention on social issues -- which are diametrically opposed to my positions on such issues.

This article well summarizes why I find it hard to vote for Romney. I'm still undecided, FWIW.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/26/opinio...html?hpt=hp_t2
My issue isn't that Republicans ignore the deficit, they increase it. Romney still hasn't proven that he has any plan for attacking the deficit, which is the number 1 thing hindering economic growth. He has yet to explain how he is going to implement his 5-Point plan, which makes his plan useless. I just hope that if Obama wins reelection, Scalia and Kennedy wait to retire. I hate Obamacare, but I am 90% confident that whatever Romney came up with would be just as bad. If Romney weren't saying Repeal and Replace, I'd like him a lot more.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:09 PM   #43
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Note, btw, that Romney is also the greatest flip-flopper in political history. In my book Republicans can't accuse any other candidate for being a flip-flopper for the next 2 or 3 elections, at least. It's a joke for them to do otherwise given their selection of Romney.
If the President of the United States is a representative of the people, why shouldn't he be able to change his mind on key issues? He should represent the peoples wishes, not his own ideals. (Not saying Romney believes this, because his 47% statement may indicate that he's not trying to appease that group, just sayin')
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This is pretty much my view as well. I don't trust Romney on the economy and pretty much think it's on the road to solid recovery, anyway.

I don't have words to describe just how much I dislike the current Republican views on social issues (gay marriage, abortion, immigration, etc.) so Obama gets my vote this time around.
I'm with you on social issues, that is why I'm independent/libertarian. But all else aside, and focusing just on the economy, you would rather have it in the hands of a community manager, and not a high profile businessman?
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Well, that, and I have already conceded the fact that O'DeficitAndTax is going to beat Romney. I think I have a better shot at being The King of England than Romney does of becoming POTUS.
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