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Old 09-27-2012, 08:22 AM  
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Why I'm Struggling with the Idea of Voting for Romney

I'll say it -- I like him personally and I like him politically. I think he's smart and can be an effective leader. There are things I like about Obama, but things I dislike. As our deficit/debt balloons, I put increasing importance in reining it in.

But when the test comes, Republicans CONSISTENTLY ignore the deficit and instead focus their attention on social issues -- which are diametrically opposed to my positions on such issues.

This article well summarizes why I find it hard to vote for Romney. I'm still undecided, FWIW.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/26/opinio...html?hpt=hp_t2
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:06 PM   #61
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:07 PM   #62
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Really this year's election does not appeal to me. No offense. I will leave it at that!
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Old 09-28-2012, 08:25 AM   #63
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This election is about one thing and one thing only: who is most likely to prevent us from going over the fiscal cliff... Nothing else.

Nobody is going to be arguing about forcing Catholic charities to buy birth control if we pass the fiscal event horizon like Greece has.
I don't think you understand what "fiscal cliff" refers to.
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Old 09-28-2012, 08:36 AM   #64
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Many others are struggling with a vote for Romney

...and it has nothing to do with a fiscal cliff.

It's because Mitt is seen as a stand-in for Netanyahu. That may help with the Christian Right, even if they don't like anything else about Mitt—but it does not help with most Americans.
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Old 09-28-2012, 08:39 AM   #65
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...and it has nothing to do with a fiscal cliff.

It's because Mitt is seen as a stand-in for Netanyahu. That may help with the Christian Right, even if they don't like anything else about Mitt—but it does not help with most Americans.
It doesn't help with THIS Christian Rightie, he's a fake and a phoney with leftmost tendencies.
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:39 AM   #66
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When the alternative is obama the decision crystallizes.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:09 AM   #67
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I'm an independent too. I like Romney. I've never really liked any candidate before, Republican or Democrat. I think he'll be an effective leader. He's just not a good politician.

I don't think he's a flip flopper. Frankly, I think as a business guy, he knows that it's more important to have a flexible stance than to bully your opposition into taking your position. That's the leadership that drove me crazy about Bush and drives me crazy about Obama.

I disagree that this is a notch in the belt for Romney. What I like about him is that I think he's a really super competitive guy, and his motivation is actually to stroke his ego by proving he can do this job well. Whether you disagree with him or not, it's hard to deny that he's an extremely driven guy.

It does drive me crazy that he keeps shooting himself in the foot. I don't think he's nearly as dumb as people think he is. I just think he's a bad politician and I sense that he despises that he has to pander the way he does to win elections.
I don't see him being an effective leader. Politician or not you have to be able to get others to follow you and your message.

He's a proven flip flopper which is why you can barely get him to say anything concrete now. Because he's afraid of it coming back and biting him in the ass.

I would agree that he's an extremely driven guy. It's what drives him that bothers me.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:11 AM   #68
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I'll say it -- I like him personally and I like him politically. I think he's smart and can be an effective leader. There are things I like about Obama, but things I dislike. As our deficit/debt balloons, I put increasing importance in reining it in.

But when the test comes, Republicans CONSISTENTLY ignore the deficit and instead focus their attention on social issues -- which are diametrically opposed to my positions on such issues.

This article well summarizes why I find it hard to vote for Romney. I'm still undecided, FWIW.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/26/opinio...html?hpt=hp_t2
Just quit the ****ing charade.

You've posted here for years complaining about our deficits and debt. You've watched Obama ignore his own debt commission. You've watched dems in control not able to even pass their own budget. You've argued we need to face the impending entitlement cliff. You know what Obama's policies do.

If after all that you're still not sure who you're going to vote for all the above was just BS. Just stop.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:14 AM   #69
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I would agree that he's an extremely driven guy. It's what drives him that bothers me.
Pretty good way of saying it.

He's not a true moderate. He's not a principled conservative.

He's just ambition, personified.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:14 AM   #70
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I don't think you understand what "fiscal cliff" refers to.
Simple.

It's that rocky ledge along the top of mount Fiscal.

Doh!
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:33 AM   #71
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Just quit the ****ing charade.

You've posted here for years complaining about our deficits and debt. You've watched Obama ignore his own debt commission. You've watched dems in control not able to even pass their own budget. You've argued we need to face the impending entitlement cliff. You know what Obama's policies do.

If after all that you're still not sure who you're going to vote for all the above was just BS. Just stop.
I have to agree.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:35 AM   #72
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Pretty good way of saying it.

He's not a true moderate. He's not a principled conservative.

He's just ambition, personified.
What's a true moderate? Someone who hems and haws for a while before settling for the liberal option in most cases like suzzer and cosmo?
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What's a true moderate? Someone who hems and haws for a while before settling for the liberal option in most cases like suzzer and cosmo?
I just wonder who those two will be voting for.
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Old 09-28-2012, 12:04 PM   #74
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I just wonder who those two will be voting for.
I wonder if those two will be able to buy their own bus tokens to get to the polling place or if they'll need it subsidized.
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I just wonder who those two will be voting for.
I'd imagine they'll be voting for the middle-of-the-road candidate, Barack Obama.
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