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Old 09-28-2012, 05:55 PM  
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What makes you a Democrat?

For you liberals out there...what do you think it means to be a democrat and/or why do you vote democrat?
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:17 PM   #91
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We've been through this like a bajllion times already, but as usual you block your ears and yell neener-neener whenever simple concepts bounce off your lizard brain.

The government isn't disallowing anything that doesn't require government intrusion. They can live together, pledge loyalty and love, ask that others refer to them as married, call each other husband wife, spouse whatever.

Marriage licenses are government sticking it's nose in. Tax status is government intrusion. Full faith and credit is government sticking it's nose in.

I'm not even against gay marriage, it's just stultifying to refer to it as equal rights or standing against government intrusion. Using those terms suggest nothing more than that the user doesn't understand what they mean.
You are the dense one pal. Just because I'm not buying your BS that you are peddling. That doesn't make me stupid. It just highlighting that your position is hypocritical as hell.. ohhh I believe in individual liberty, keep the government out of our lives but, I still want to discriminate and impose my morals on another citizen.
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:19 PM   #92
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You are the dense one pal. Your position is hypocritical as hell.. ohhh I believe in individual liberty, keep the government out of our lives but, I still want to discriminate and impose my morals on another citizen.
Exactly
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:29 PM   #93
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This is really starting to piss me off. If you disagree with their position you are just too stupid to understand or you would agree with them already. And they get so aggressive, like thats going to help them get their beliefs affirmed.

If this is all you are wanting, go seek your affirmation of beliefs elsewhere. Fox news is on 24 hours a day. Rush is on the radio everyday. Red state has a large forum of people going yeah that's right.
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:33 PM   #94
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This is really starting to piss me off. If you disagree with their position you are just too stupid to understand or you would agree with them already. And they get so aggressive, like thats going to help them get their beliefs affirmed.

If this is all you are wanting, go seek your affirmation of beliefs elsewhere. Fox news is on 24 hours a day. Rush is on the radio everyday. Red state has a large forum of people going yeah that's right.
This forum is one ****ing big circle jerk between Pat, Mike Lyon and HonestDumbassFan.

They don't go to a bathhouse - they jerk each other off here all day long. It's quite comical.
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:38 PM   #95
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Still wanting to know how come if liberals are the champions of freedom, how come democrats want to take away gun ownership.
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:42 PM   #96
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Still wanting to know how come if liberals are the champions of freedom, how come democrats want to take away gun ownership.
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In which city do you live?
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:44 PM   #97
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Still wanting to know how come if liberals are the champions of freedom, how come democrats want to take away gun ownership.
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uhhhh have you read anything I've posted on here? I'm a strong advocate of the 2nd amendment. The constitution is clear.
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:48 PM   #98
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uhhhh have you read anything I've posted on here? I'm a strong advocate of the 2nd amendment. The constitution is clear.
So am I. But I also understand why people in the inner-cities and more urban areas would like more gun control.

If you live in South Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Alaska, et al, gun control really isn't an issue. In urban areas, it's an issue.
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:49 PM   #99
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So am I. But I also understand why people in the inner-cities and more urban areas would like more gun control.

If you live in South Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Alaska, et al, gun control really isn't an issue. In urban areas, it's an issue.
OMG I thought you were a total douche in the lounge. I just didn't know your political side before!
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:51 PM   #100
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OMG I thought you were a total douche in the lounge. I just didn't know your political side before!
What is my "political side"?
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:04 PM   #101
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You are the dense one pal. Just because I'm not buying your BS that you are peddling. That doesn't make me stupid. It just highlighting that your position is hypocritical as hell.. ohhh I believe in individual liberty, keep the government out of our lives but, I still want to discriminate and impose my morals on another citizen.
I agree somewhat. I don't think government has any business in marriage which is a religious institution IMO.

A lot of Libertarians disagree with banning abortion. I disagree with them on this issue. How can you support individual liberty but allow a fetus's to be taken?
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:05 PM   #102
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I agree somewhat. I don't think government has any business in marriage which is a religious institution IMO.
If it were a religious institution only, I'd agree. But since there are government related privileges attached, especially related to taxation, I have to disagree.

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A lot of Libertarians disagree with banning abortion. I disagree with them on this issue. How can you support individual liberty but allow a fetus's to be taken?
Rowe vs. Wade.
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:08 PM   #103
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If it were a religious institution only, I'd agree. But since there are government related privileges attached, especially related to taxation, I have to disagree.



Rowe vs. Wade.
Then call it a civil union to allow those rights to everyone.

Roe V Wade never ruled when life begins.
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:10 PM   #104
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Still wanting to know how come if liberals are the champions of freedom, how come democrats want to take away gun ownership.
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I am liberal on most issues but am a strong advocate of fire arms. The problem is in the desire to classify people in terms of black and white. Just because I fall into liberalism on most issues and would be considered extremly liberal by most, I don't fit neatly into your classification categories.
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:11 PM   #105
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I agree somewhat. I don't think government has any business in marriage which is a religious institution IMO.

A lot of Libertarians disagree with banning abortion. I disagree with them on this issue. How can you support individual liberty but allow a fetus's to be taken?
A fetus is not a person until it is born.
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