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Old 10-01-2012, 12:37 PM  
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Will Romney lose the election because hes too rich?

Just MHO but i think the guy loses. Ive heard this same sort of response with alot of working class people when discussing Romney. (Both Repub and Dem)

Basically they cant relate because they think hes elitist.


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The Obama ad is called "Not One of Us," and that was another theme of my conversations with voters about Romney. (It's an insidious title -- can you imagine Romney making an anti-Obama ad called "not one of us" without getting shouted down for implicit racism?) Those opposed to Obama cited various reasons, from disappointment to anger to being convinced he's a Muslim. But the impressions of Romney were remarkably consistent: He's for the rich.

"I think Obama's more for the regular working class people, and Romney's for the big business and the well-to-do," said Eric Burkhead, the road and cemetery superintendent for Kirkwood Township, working on a truck in the gravel driveway of the local garage. The 66-year-old didn't like what he saw happening with coal and wasn't wild about Obamacare, but he planned to vote for Obama.

I heard it over and over again from Ohioans -- the idea that Romney stands for the wealthy and not for them. Obama's depiction of his rival as an out-of-touch rich guy, which has gotten no little assistance from Romney himself, has made a deep and effective impression with these self-consciously working-class voters.





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Old 10-01-2012, 03:59 PM   #46
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Gov. Romney left Massachusetts a billion-dollar deficit and the highest debt per person of any state in the country.
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Old 10-01-2012, 03:59 PM   #47
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See, this is the example. Instead of reaching out to the middle, you attack and derride it. "Ran to California"? I mean, you do realize ATC is a national scope profession? You talk about how it is a good thing that unions are being "systematically" eliminated, and yet are often the standard for which middle class wage earning Americans would call their "American Dream". How do you expect to win back the middle when your attitude is that anyone who makes a wage as opposed to entrepeneurship, is somehow a dependent drain on the American culture? When are you going to divorce yourself of this vitriol? People who attack the union have no idea what the union does FOR the American well being and safety, how they now work in concert with management for the improvement and economic streamlining of the system. They prefer to swin in the stereotyping because the Republicans decided to make them one of the scapegoats of their platform.
Unions have long since gone beyond the purpose they were formed to serve and have now become a drain on the employer and the enemy of the bottom line. Hide behind that "if you are against the union you are against the working man"schtick while you can. People aren't fooled by it anymore.

Look around you; the end is nigh.When they replace your job with machines will you support them in the event they look kindly on you once they become self aware?
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Old 10-01-2012, 04:02 PM   #48
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You are aware you are in the DC forum, no?
I am, but I'm also aware that each thread is an animal unto itself, and I'm trying not to derail it. I used to get into these big political tiffs until I became sick of the pointlessness of it. At one time it was fun, now it just makes me ill, expending so much energy and negative feelings so that I could declare victory in some cyber war of opinions. I'm much more at peace today, largely because I don't visit the DC forum as much as I once did, and post even less.
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Old 10-01-2012, 04:03 PM   #49
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I am, but I'm also aware that each thread is an animal unto itself, and I'm trying not to derail it. I used to get into these big political tiffs until I became sick of the pointlessness of it. At one time it was fun, now it just makes me ill, expending so much energy and negative feelings so that I could declare victory in some cyber war of opinions. I'm much more at peace today, largely because I don't visit the DC forum as much as I once did, and post even less.
Oh, I can respect that. I never mistook this hole for the real world so don't give a shit what people here say.

I'll quit trolling you now. Have a good one.
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Old 10-01-2012, 04:03 PM   #50
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Unions have long since gone beyond the purpose they were formed to serve and have now become a drain on the employer and the enemy of the bottom line. Hide behind that "if you are against the union you are against the working man"schtick while you can. People aren't fooled by it anymore.

Look around you; the end is nigh.When they replace your job with machines will you support them in the event they look kindly on you once they become self aware?
When that day comes, who will buy all these products the machines make?
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Old 10-01-2012, 04:04 PM   #51
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When that day comes, who will buy all these products the machines make?
Sarah Connor and her family.
Duh.
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Old 10-01-2012, 04:05 PM   #52
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Oh, I can respect that. I never mistook this hole for the real world so don't give a shit what people here say.

I'll quit trolling you now. Have a good one.
Same to you, glad your real world is more appealing!
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Duh.
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Old 10-01-2012, 04:18 PM   #56
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I agree, if Romney wasn't a dbag this would be a blowout by halftime.

So I'll hold my nose and vote for the vet FA quarterback for the country instead of the Matt Cassel whom I know is nothing but and L in our stat sheet every week.


An Obama that doesn't have to worry about re-election will be disastrous for this country.

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Mitt will have my Vote in November, but I think the Republican Party ****ed themselves and this Country by not putting up a better candidate.

Mitt has less public appeal than McCain. I'm not sure how that is even possible, but imo, it's true.
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Please tell me you were trolling there......
You are talking about someone who, with this economy, should be getting crushed by Blimpie the Clown.

You cant blame it all on Romney, and Obama's ability as a politician is undeniable.
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You are talking about someone who, with this economy, should be getting crushed by Blimpie the Clown.

You cant blame it all on Romney, and Obama's ability as a politician is undeniable.
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If Obama is Cassel, Romney is Blackledge.

So you're admitting he's a better choice. IT's a start
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So you're admitting he's a better choice. IT's a start
How in the world could one come to such a conclusion?

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