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Old 09-28-2012, 05:55 PM  
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What makes you a Democrat?

For you liberals out there...what do you think it means to be a democrat and/or why do you vote democrat?
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Old 09-30-2012, 01:27 AM   #151
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Damn.

I was hoping to get a lot more play on my answer in this thread.

I'm assuming it was too reasonable.
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Old 09-30-2012, 03:45 AM   #152
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Do you advocate male on male butt sex in bars,at work,preach it as ok to your friends away from CP? Or are you just a male on male butt sex advocate here on CP?
I personally don't understand that some men like to orally or anally be penetrated but I work with two gays and my boss is gay too. As a somewhat Christian I believe God will decide what happens to them after death. I'm a liberal because God is liberal.
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Old 09-30-2012, 04:00 AM   #153
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And I know a number of gay lawyers that would completely disagree.

But the REAL issue has nothing to do with government, etc. It has to do with the fact that nearly half of the country's population believes it's "wrong" because that's what their bible says.
JFC, now we're through the looking glass.

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Old 09-30-2012, 05:55 AM   #154
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Churches won't be compelled to marry gay couples, so that is not a valid reason to oppose gay marriage. Churches are pretty much free to discriminate against anyone they choose. There are churches today that will not marry non-members. There are churches that will refuse to commune non-celibate homosexuals. Churches have a lot of liberty in this regard.
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:45 AM   #155
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I agree somewhat. I don't think government has any business in marriage which is a religious institution IMO.
I would be against churchs/religions being forced to marry gays. Thats a separation of church issue. The constitution is clear on this issue.
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A lot of Libertarians disagree with banning abortion. I disagree with them on this issue. How can you support individual liberty but allow a fetus's to be taken?
It's not up to big brother/government to dictate morality to its citizens. We have no right as a society to own a women's body for 9 months, to dictate some citizens morals on what another citizen does with that body for 9 months. Her choice is between her and God, not the congress.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:43 AM   #156
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What makes people Democrats?

1. A thirst for other people's money.
2. Belief in a larger, more intrusive government.
3. A. disbelief in charity and community.
4. A thirst that drives them to drink all the grape Koolaid in the house.
5. A mean streak that leads them to put the milk carton back in the fridge with only 1/2" left.
6. A sick sense of humor that makes them put the toilet paper on the dispenser bottom up rather than top down.

When you throw out political humor, you got to go all the way man!
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:46 AM   #157
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I would vote for carrot if given the chance
We'll get to see the first ever 1st family pose off to see who has the best arms.
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:18 PM   #158
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By whom BRC?
That would be the constitution / declaration of independence.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:15 PM   #159
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I have been hearing this stupid nonsense since David Lee Roth led a failed attempt to promote his Gay album 1984
I don't get the "gay album" connection, but upward redistribution of wealth since the '80s is a fact.... seriously - check into it & you'll see....
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:39 PM   #160
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Jack Wu isn't shy about his beliefs.

Topeka is evil. Harry Potter promotes witchcraft. Christmas trees are pagan idols. Cancer is a judgment from God. And the teaching of evolution should be rooted out of Kansas schools because it's a satanic lie.

He also believes that America's public schools are cultivating a culture of "liars, thieves, murderers and perverts."

Outside the mainstream? It doesn't matter to Wu, running for a seat on the Kansas Board of Education.

A northern California transplant, Wu is seeking to defeat first-term Democrat Carolyn Campbell of Topeka in an admittedly uphill battle for the 4th District seat on the state school board. Uphill because he only received $5 in contributions through July, the most recent reporting period.

But Campbell is taking her Republican opponent seriously.

"I want to make sure the folks that don't know Carolyn Campbell and her record will try to get to know me and understand who my opponent is and what he stands for," Campbell said.

The 4th District covers six northeast Kansas counties and takes in parts of Topeka and Lawrence. Campbell's district became a little more Republican this year when she picked up parts of Jefferson and Pottawatomie counties when election boundaries were redrawn to adjust for the census.

Teachers union officials also worry that voters who cast ballots along straight-party lines might be unaware of Wu's background.

Wu's campaign, small as it is, comes at a time when the state school board is expected to consider new science standards, raising the prospect of revisiting the evolution debate that consumed the board in 1999 and again in 2005 -- an issue about which Wu has strong views.

Yet the 29-year-old Wu says it's better to be loved by God and live in heaven than be loved by man and rot in hell.

"The truth matters more than the opinion of other men and women," said Wu, clutching his green cloth-bound King James Bible during a recent interview on the grounds of state Capitol about a block away from the Kansas Department of Education's offices.

"The Bible says if you're hated by other people for taking a stance that's not popular, it's like a sign you're chosen by God, almost," added Wu, who describes himself as a reality television fan who works as a self-employed computer programmer and designer of video games.

His last-minute decision to file for the seat in June is drawing attention because he also attends Topeka's Westboro Baptist Church, which has gained national notoriety for picketing military funerals with signs that read, "Thank God for dead soldiers," "God hates the USA" and "God hates pillowbiters."

Last year, the church, led by the Rev. Fred Phelps, won a Supreme Court case blocking a civil lawsuit seeking damages for intentionally inflicting emotional distress at a soldier's funeral in 2006. Wu said he has joined the congregation's pickets in California and Topeka, but to the best of his recollection hasn't participated in a protest at a military funeral.

Born in Taiwan and raised in a San Francisco suburb, Wu moved to Topeka in 2008 after learning about Westboro on an Internet message board.
Wu said he was drawn to the church's all-or-nothing message of obey God or else. Westboro stands apart, he said, because its congregation confronts issues of heaven, hell and eternal fate. He believes Westboro preaches the Bible accurately and hasn't watered down its message.

Church spokesman Jonathan Phelps, the son of the church's leader, said he didn't know much about Wu. He sees Wu at church most Sundays.

"It seems like he believes what he says," Phelps said. "I think he's a nice guy."
But Campbell, 70, said she thinks Wu is negatively focused, especially with comments he's posted on his Web site about public education "preparing its students to be liars, crooks, thieves, murderers, and perverts."

"That is very sad that anyone would go that route in their thoughts about the education system," she said. "I have a lot of respect for our educators. Anyone that decides to be a teacher starts out knowing that their income isn't going to be what it could be. That shows they are dedicated to our children."

And then there's the issue of evolution.

Kansas is one of 26 states working with the National Research Council to develop voluntary standards to be used by multiple states. The proposed standards direct teachers to engage students in research in evolution and natural selection. Evolution's pivotal place in life science is not diluted, and there is no mention of creationism.

If the proposed science standards came before the board today, the vote would likely be 7 to 3 in favor, political observers believe.

However, the standards won't be complete until after the Nov. 6 school board election, when five seats will be on the ballot, including the race pitting Wu against Campbell, who favors teaching evolution.

While Wu appears to bring little firepower to the race -- he lists no support from any prominent political groups -- he's not someone who should be overlooked, especially in a heavily Republican state, said Mark Desetti, lobbyist for the Kansas National Education Association.

"We take everybody seriously, especially in a state where there is one-party dominance like there is in Kansas," Desetti said.

Desetti cautioned that voters might be more focused on the presidential race and higher profile statehouse races, so it might be easy to overlook a state school board race and just vote along party lines.

"I honestly believe that if Kansans know this guy, if they know what he says, they would not vote for him," he said. "I've read his Web site. I've read his views. As a parent, I would find them quite disturbing that he could be setting education policy for the state of Kansas."

Wu said he is a graduate of what used to be called California State University-Hayward where he was involved in student government, and also ran for the Kansas House in 2010.

Wu is well aware of the attention his latest candidacy has attracted and expects people to scoff at his beliefs. But he said his candidacy is not about being part of the political mainstream.

"If you're mainstream, you're going to hell," he said.
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:11 PM   #161
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:22 AM   #162
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Churches won't be compelled to marry gay couples, so that is not a valid reason to oppose gay marriage. Churches are pretty much free to discriminate against anyone they choose. There are churches today that will not marry non-members. There are churches that will refuse to commune non-celibate homosexuals. Churches have a lot of liberty in this regard.
Not in Canada. It's considered hate speech to preach an anti-gay stance.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:46 AM   #163
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We've been through this like a bajllion times already, but as usual you block your ears and yell neener-neener whenever simple concepts bounce off your lizard brain.

The government isn't disallowing anything that doesn't require government intrusion. They can live together, pledge loyalty and love, ask that others refer to them as married, call each other husband wife, spouse whatever.

Marriage licenses are government sticking it's nose in. Tax status is government intrusion. Full faith and credit is government sticking it's nose in.

I'm not even against gay marriage, it's just stultifying to refer to it as equal rights or standing against government intrusion. Using those terms suggest nothing more than that the user doesn't understand what they mean.
It's simply amazing that so many people don't understand this.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:47 AM   #164
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This is really starting to piss me off. If you disagree with their position you are just too stupid to understand or you would agree with them already. And they get so aggressive, like thats going to help them get their beliefs affirmed.

If this is all you are wanting, go seek your affirmation of beliefs elsewhere. Fox news is on 24 hours a day. Rush is on the radio everyday. Red state has a large forum of people going yeah that's right.
I'm sure it gets frustrating to get called out for not understanding things when you don't even understand that you don't understand them.
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And Midwesterners get upset when people on the coasts refer to them as intolerant rubes.
Self-referential irony. Good show.
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