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Old 10-02-2012, 01:27 AM  
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:02 PM   #91
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When you restrict the participants you restrict the discourse. You know that.
It seems like we further limit the chance of ever having a Potus that is not R or D by restricting the debate in this way.
This debate isn't limiting the chance of a non-R or D winning the election. That was already at 0%.

Third parties have a significant uphill battle in our system. I'm not suggesting that that's good or that we shouldn't do something about it. I'm saying that 1) it's irrelevant, even irresponsible to do something about it at this point for this election and 2) it's not a right
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:02 PM   #92
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We should all vote for Mitt Romney because he's a great candidate.

Or is it because he has the same positions as the other guy he's just not black.
I know that's the mantra of the Paul followers, but like most things Paul, it's wrong.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:07 PM   #93
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I know that's the mantra of the Paul followers, but like most things Paul, it's wrong.
So you're voting for Romney because of the health care plan you oppose?
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:08 PM   #94
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So you're voting for Romney because of the health care plan you oppose?
I'm voting for Romney because he was and is the best candidate to beat Obama.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:08 PM   #95
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No, they are just fringe. Ron Paul was at every GOP debate and basically showed just how fringe he is. Sorry. If people agreed with the message and the policies, Ron Paul would have been the nominee. Since they don't, he isn't.
No. That's not how Romney got elected at all. He got elected because he has the establishment (both the media and the party) and its money behind him. It took him forever to secure the nomination because the people didn't really want him. In the end it's the money that carried the day, not his ideas.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:08 PM   #96
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Stop disenfranchising me.
The libertarians maybe need to take another look at thier philosophy--because it seems like there is an awful lot of bitching about a private organization setting up rules for its event.

Waaa--they won't let me participate, and all because after a year of campaigning I'm only getting 5% support.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:10 PM   #97
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No, they are just fringe. Ron Paul was at every GOP debate and basically showed just how fringe he is. Sorry. If people agreed with the message and the policies, Ron Paul would have been the nominee. Since they don't, he isn't.
Hey, its not over yet. /BEP
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:12 PM   #98
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No. That's not how Romney got elected at all. He got elected because he has the establishment (both the media and the party) and its money behind him. It took him forever to secure the nomination because the people didn't really want him. In the end it's the money that carried the day, not his ideas.
Heh. You do realize that you just acknowledged that Paul is fringe, right?
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:21 PM   #99
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Heh. You do realize that you just acknowledged that Paul is fringe, right?
Everyone who doesn't have the backing of the billionaires that Romney and Obama do are fringe.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:24 PM   #100
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Everyone who doesn't have the backing of the billionaires that Romney and Obama do are fringe.
So what's your thought on Citizens United?
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:28 PM   #101
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Everyone who doesn't have the backing of the billionaires that Romney and Obama do are fringe.
Well, when you have a candidate actually arguing that commercial aircraft pilots should do their own navigating and tracking because there's nothing in the Constitution about the FAA, yeah, that's fringe.

And it has nothing to do with money.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:39 PM   #102
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Well, when you have a candidate actually arguing that commercial aircraft pilots should do their own navigating and tracking because there's nothing in the Constitution about the FAA, yeah, that's fringe.

And it has nothing to do with money.
Huh?
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:41 PM   #103
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Well, when you have a candidate actually arguing that commercial aircraft pilots should do their own navigating and tracking because there's nothing in the Constitution about the FAA, yeah, that's fringe.
Except that isn't true and you just made it up.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:42 PM   #104
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Huh?
It was during one of the debates. Paul was asked about some government regulation (such as the FAA) and he went on a Paul rant about privatizing the FAA.

Just general goofy Paul stuff.
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This is a lot more close on Ron Paul's take on the FAA than "pilots should do it themselves."

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/solve...privatization/
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