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Old 10-03-2012, 05:44 PM  
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Presidential Debate Drinking Game

I know at least I'll need it in order to keep from throwing a brick through my TV tonight...

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Old 10-03-2012, 09:26 PM   #211
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Job training doesn't help people if there isn't a job opening waiting for them, Barry.
Some studies have shown that there is a strong possibility that jobs could be created here in the US but we don't have the people in this country with the necessary skills to fill them.

Job training is very important. It helped save my hometown after Maytag took the plant to Mexico. 10% of the town's population lost their job but they were given the ability to do job training paid by the government and many of them ended up getting better paying jobs as a result.
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:27 PM   #212
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He isn't "giving" it.. but he is allowing it and Mitt is having to assert himself to get his responses.. which is both good and bad.. it makes him look assertive and in command but also a bit rude.
yep, agreed in all respects, and I think Romney had to do it. He has to be careful not to look like a total jerk, but to the extent that he can bully his way into having more time of possession with the football, he has to do it.
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:27 PM   #213
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Is it me or is Jim giving bloviating Obama more time?
I think he's been pretty fair, which was unexpected.
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:27 PM   #214
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Mitt is far more intelligent and presidential.
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:27 PM   #215
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Is that how we are going to close GITMO too?
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:27 PM   #216
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I will say that Obama's debate coach needs to be fired. His "uh's"are destroying the message.
He has never been someone who excels at speaking off the cuff, Mccain's dithering shielded Obama's debating inefficiencies in the 2008 election.
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:27 PM   #217
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:28 PM   #218
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everyone has turned it off by now in utter boredom except the nerds like us.
Maybe, but it certainly won't help the President.
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:28 PM   #219
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hah, you can tell that Obama thoroughly rehearsed that.
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:28 PM   #220
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The best part of these debates will be seeing how SNL skewers them, i think they have a tough task with this one... nothing too weird from either side.
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:28 PM   #221
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Once Mitt started touting his #1 status as Governor...Obama should have countered with the following or at least some of them.

1. Ranked 47th in job growth: Despite Romney’s professed expertise in creating jobs, Massachusetts ranked 47th in job growth during his time as governor. The state’s total job growth was just 0.9 percent, well behind other high-wage, high-skill economies in New York (2.7), California (4.7), and North Carolina (7.6). The national average, meanwhile, was better than 5 percent.
2. Suffered the second-largest labor force decline in the nation: Only Louisiana, which was ravaged by Hurricane Katrina in 2005, saw a bigger decline in its labor force than Massachusetts during Romney’s tenure as governor. The US Census Bureau estimated that between July 2002 and July 2006, 222,000 more residents left Massachusetts for other states than came to it. That decline largely explains the state’s decreasing unemployment rate (from 5.6 to 4.7 percent) while Romney was in office, according to Northeastern University economics professor Andrew Sum. At the same time, the nation as a whole added 8 million people to the labor force.
3. Lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs: Massachusetts lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs during Romney’s time in office, according to Sum. The loss was double the rate that the nation as a whole lost manufacturing jobs. In 2004, Romney vetoed legislation that would have banned companies doing business with the state from outsourcing jobs to other countries.
4. Experienced “below average” economic growth and was “often near the bottom”: “There was not one measure where the state did well under his term in office. We were below average and often near the bottom,” Sum told the Washington Post in February. As a result, the state was more comparable to Rust Belt states like Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio than it was to other high-tech economies it typically competes with.
5. Piled on more debt than any other state: Romney left Massachusetts residents with $10,504 in per capita bond debt, the highest of any state in the nation when he left office in 2007. The state ranked second in debt as a percentage of personal income. Romney regularly omits those statistics from his Massachusetts record, instead touting the fact that he balanced the state’s budget (he was constitutionally required to do so). He wouldn’t be much different as president: his proposed tax plan adds more than $10 trillion to the national debt.
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:28 PM   #222
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Maybe, but it certainly won't help the President.
tie goes to the guy who is leading by 8 in Ohio.
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:28 PM   #223
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O'Bama going to call in sick to the next debate?
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:28 PM   #225
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He isn't "giving" it.. but he is allowing it and Mitt is having to assert himself to get his responses.. which is both good and bad.. it makes him look assertive and in command but also a bit rude.
It makes him look like a leader, only left wingers will see it as rude as something to cling on to in a blowout loss~
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