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Old 10-03-2012, 05:44 PM  
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Presidential Debate Drinking Game

I know at least I'll need it in order to keep from throwing a brick through my TV tonight...

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Old 10-03-2012, 11:08 PM   #361
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Green energy & Oil for starters. 50 years


State & Schools & what he has done for the schools in his state was another
I rather enjoyed that line about "picking losers".
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:10 PM   #362
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So we agree. I thought the debate was won by Romney. Just not total destruction. And Kyle, we have to talk about these RANDOM capitalizations THAT you do. TOO much like SOFIESTY and MEMYSELFI. You gotta LOSE that.
ha, they aren't random! They are meant to emphasize a word.. should I switch to bolding them? I try to make my text appear like I would speak it aloud... I guess it isn't working.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:11 PM   #363
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It's not an impression. At 34:23 into the debate, Romney literally kicked Obama in the gut, and a small amount of stool departed from Obama's anus.


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A person does not have to express the same point differently. You and I do not see the result the same. Rather you wish for an original verbiage to tell you that you are full of shit means little to me~
This reads like a stevieraider post. (minus the ellipsis)
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:14 PM   #364
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ha, they aren't random! They are meant to emphasize a word.. should I switch to bolding them? I try to make my text appear like I would speak it aloud... I guess it isn't working.
I KNOW kyle. It was Denise's trademark. And I read it and think of a wall of text with random caps.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:55 PM   #365
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Obana's smirks, smartass retorts, eyerolling and general blabbing is showing who he really is.
replying to this again, not to pick on pete, but because this is the most amazing, mind-boggling thing to me about this brand-new Obama-hatred phenomena and I've seen this reaction *A LOT* from the right. People who see every slight facial tick or barely-noticeable reaction as an amazingly horrible slight and proof-positive that he's an arrogant disgusting specimen of a human being.

You've really got to be crazily invested far down the deep end of the "the other party is evil" rabbit hole to get here. It's not like Obama went full Gore sighing mode here, he generally smiled, looked down, took notes, and sounded clunky and off in the debate. This is not a reaction to Romney or a slight against anyone, even when he was losing to Hillary and badly needed an energizing comeback performance he performed no better. The guy is simply an introverted thinker who cant speak well without a teleprompter.

Guess what. Over 99+% of the country, including probably everyone hating him, are the same way and would do far worse looking like a stammering awkward fool on the big stage. He obviously loves his family, seems like a decent enough guy, no matter what you think of his politics, why do these far-right zealots constantly have to go convince themselves that Obama is fundamentally a bad person?

Its almost like a soldier going off to war, and having to convince himself that the enemy are all sub-human monsters to morally convince himself that its OK to kill for his country. (which of course, is sometimes necessary, but Obama is not a WWII Japanese soldier)
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:00 AM   #366
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I read this somewhere else and thought it sums it up pretty nicely:

"Obama arguing with a strawman can work… but not if the strawman is standing right next to you with his own mic!"
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:00 AM   #367
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The first thing I thought of when I saw Obama smirk was Al Gore sighing in his debate with Bush back in 2000.

The smirk was not a slight facial tick, it was an outright smirk. It made Obama look less Presidential.

If you took a caveman and had him watch the debate, and then ask him who he thought the sitting President was, I doubt he would say Obama. He just did not seem Presidential tonight. He lacked the gravitas of the office. Romney seemed to have it....not on the level of Bill Clinton, but he appeared to have more of that gravitas than at any point of his campaign so far. It will be interesting to see how this effects the polls in the next few days.
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:02 AM   #368
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The smirk was not a slight facial tick, it was an outright smirk. It made Obama look less Presidential.
Oh, give me a break. Everyone reacts when they hear something they don't agree with. Its expected, and understandable. An audible sigh is over the top.

You really have to be almost a blind, partisan political hack pre-disposed to not liking the guy to think Obama acted boorish, when the biggest complaint against him about his debate performance is excessive passiveness.
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:05 AM   #369
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Oh, give me a break. Everyone reacts when they hear something they don't agree with. Its expected, and understandable. An audible sigh is over the top.

You really have to be almost a blind, partisan political hack pre-disposed to not liking the guy to think Obama acted boorish, when the biggest complaint against him is excessive passiveness.
Well, Romney did not have one, and I am sure he heard plenty from Obama that he did not agree with.

Look, I am not saying that the smirk alone should be the basis on which one should base their vote. I am saying that it made the President look bad, and it contributed to him losing the debate tonight by a wide margin, especially when you combine his smirk with his overall body language and his lack of eye contact with Romney and the way he constantly was looking down at his podium.
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:14 AM   #370
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Just to be clear (and its good that the audio cant be heard well because we're talking visuals here), here is a typical example of Obama's reaction. (the "worst" comes at about 17 seconds in) Pretty mild stuff here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69H6Nj7gE3w

You really have to be a delicate flower to be offended by this.
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:17 AM   #371
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Well, Romney did not have one
Compare Romney to the typical candidate, not to a candidate who is the first presidential candidate in 7 elections with a net unfavorable rating, who just pissed off a ton of people with 47%, going up a likable black president. Romney's not on a short leash, fairly or not he has no room for anything that could possibly be mis-interpreted at all.

Every other presidential candidate has always had plenty of room to, you know, react like like a normal human being. A smile is hardly damning unless you think he's a Kenyan demon from hell.
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:30 AM   #372
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...he's a Kenyan demon from hell.
dude, I didn't know you were one of those
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:48 AM   #373
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Just to be clear (and its good that the audio cant be heard well because we're talking visuals here), here is a typical example of Obama's reaction. (the "worst" comes at about 17 seconds in) Pretty mild stuff here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69H6Nj7gE3w

You really have to be a delicate flower to be offended by this.
Who is offended? I merely stated that the smirk hurt him in the debate. It doesn't offend me at all.

Also, at 17 seconds in, Obama is smiling. That was nowhere close to the facial expression (smirk) that he used later on in the debate.

Again, there is nothing to be offended by. It was a smirk. He looked less Presidential. Guess what? Shit happens, and even Presidents are human and have moments when they don't look as Presidential as they want to be.

If you are scoring the debate like a boxing match, you deduct a couple of points from Obama (or add a couple of points to Romney for getting that response), and you move on.

You seem to think that anyone who noticed the smirk, or thought it was less than Presidential is some kind of raving lunatic, and that is just not the case.
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:09 AM   #374
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Do you have to have the last word on *EVERY* topic, Romney?

That's what I'd have interrupted with if I were Obama right when Romney stopped Lehrer. He's done that 3 times now.
He only had to have the last word on topics on which the President misrepresented his positions.
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If Barack and Michelle get romantic later tonight, I won't be surprised if she yells out the name "Mitt" in the heat of passion.
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