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Old 10-03-2012, 07:42 PM  
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who won the presidential debate?

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Old 10-03-2012, 11:45 PM   #166
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I disagree that debates influence a significant amount of voters
Depends on what you are counting... debates CAN and DO influence the undecideds and that is all that matters right now. They are a TINY part of the electorate this year but enough to decide the election.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:45 PM   #167
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Only when the person who's supposed to win doesn't win.
what?
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:45 PM   #168
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I just wonder if Republicans ever take blame for getting us into this shit in the first place.
Nah. That'll never happen.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:46 PM   #169
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I doubt he'll rough up Biden like Romney punked Obama but it'll definitely be interesting.

I really wish I liked Romney & Ryan's politics because I like them better than Obama (Biden's a wash).
I actually like Biden, not his politics but his candor.. he be fun to drink with.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:46 PM   #170
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doesn't every president get 2 terms anyways? It's been a long time since a president only got 1 term. I don't even care, I'm not even sure who the lesser of 2 evils is.
George H.W. Bush, Carter, Ford most recent.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:46 PM   #171
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Depends on what you are counting... debates CAN and DO influence the undecideds and that is all that matters right now. They are a TINY part of the electorate this year but enough to decide the election.
I like what Bill Maher said a few weeks ago (paraphrasing):

If you don't know who you're voting for at this point, you're just ****ing too stupid to vote.

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Old 10-03-2012, 11:47 PM   #172
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Obama might come alive during the foreign policy debates. He had his back against the wall tonight, and that probably explains a good deal of his timidity. I still think he, along with Romney, did an excellent job explaining his domestic policy and his opposition to the other side. But from a political victory perspective, Romney took this opportunity and did very well with it.
I'm extremely biased (EB), of course, but I honestly thought that Obama had ideas in his head that he completely fumbled in the delivery. There were several times when I knew what he was trying to say but thought what actually came out of his mouth barely made any sense if at all. I can't imagine what people who don't follow this as closely as we do thought he was trying to say. Romney, on the other hand, had concise, easy-to-understand explanations, IM(EB)O.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:47 PM   #173
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I just wonder if Republicans ever take blame for getting us into this shit in the first place.
I was all Clinton's fault, he left it in good condition, but set up for future failure

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Old 10-03-2012, 11:48 PM   #174
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George H.W. Bush, Carter, Ford most recent.
In Bump's defense, that was a long time ago. We're talking 1988 for Bush (24 years) and 32 years (Carter).

Ford wasn't actually elected, so he doesn't really count.
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Romney's bullshit tonight and Ryan's budget gives him plenty of ammo.
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I'm extremely biased (EB), of course, but I honestly thought that Obama had ideas in his head that he completely fumbled in the delivery. There were several times when I knew what he was trying to say but thought what actually came out of his mouth barely made any sense if at all. I can't imagine what people who don't follow this as closely as we do thought he was trying to say. Romney, on the other hand, had concise, easy-to-understand explanations, IM(EB)O.
I agree. I'm sure every speech teacher in the nation cut his/her wrist tonight.

the "uhs" were driving me batshit.
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Don't kid yourself.
You'll see.
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In Bump's defense, that was a long time ago. We're talking 1988 for Bush (24 years) and 32 years (Carter).

Ford wasn't actually elected, so he doesn't really count.
Could have down without you breaking down numbers dickhead.
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I agree. I'm sure every speech teacher in the nation cut his/her wrist tonight.

the "uhs" were driving me batshit.
I didn't think they were as bad as usual, partly because I thought he held back. Well, I've got it recorded, so I'll watch it again another time or two.
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I agree. I'm sure every speech teacher in the nation cut his/her wrist tonight.

the "uhs" were driving me batshit.
And it wasn't just that: The guy kept nodding his head while Romney was speaking, which basically looked like he was agreeing with him. His body language was awful and he acted like he was getting beat down.

His debate advisers need to fired immediately. And who doesn't practice in front of a mirror or faux audience?

That's debate/public speaking 101.
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