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Old 10-01-2012, 07:43 AM  
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Do you want to see Miguel Cabrera win MLBs Triple Crown?

Could be the first Triple Crown since 1967


Ironically, the Royals will have a say in the race, since he plays against them the last 3 games.

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Miguel Cabrera is slowly inching towards achieving the first Triple Crown since 1967.

With a line drive home run in the eighth inning against Minnesota on Saturday night, Cabrera moved into a tie with Texas star Josh Hamilton for the AL lead.

Cabrera's blast in the eighth inning off Casey Fien was his 43rd home run for the year. He also leads the AL in batting average (.327) and RBIs (136) as he looks to become the first player since 1967 to lead the league in all three categories.

"It's unbelievable what he's done this year," pitcher Justin Verlander said, the reigning AL MVP who was wearing a dark blue t-shirt with the message "Keep the MVP in the D" and Cabrera's name on the front.

"It's amazing to me how he keeps getting better. He's already the best hitter in the game and he keeps taking it to another level."

While it was Cabrera and his home run that gave the Tigers the five-run cushion they would end up needing in a 6-4 victory over the Twins that gave them a two-game lead in the AL Central, the Triple Crown hopeful deferred the attention away from himself.


It's unbelievable what he's done this year.- Justin Verlander


"I want to talk about the team," Cabrera said respectfully. "There's too many distractions right now and been talking too much about triple crowns. I pull too much attention. I don't want to do that. I want to go out there and play my game."

Cabrera entered the day leading Joe Mauer by five points in the batting race, Hamilton by eight in the RBI race, but trailing Hamilton by one in homers.

So will he be watching Hamilton down the stretch?

"I'll let you guys keep Hamilton in your eyes," Cabrera said. "I'll go to the hotel and get some breakfast tomorrow and try to win tomorrow."

The bigger prize, of course, is the division title. Neither the Tigers nor the Sox will qualify for one of two wild cards in the American League, so their only way in is through the division door.

"The last couple weeks, there's too much attention right now," Cabrera said of the triple crown. "I don't like too much of that stuff. But it's always good. You've got to feel comfortable with that. You've got to feel positive and be ready to play."
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:13 AM   #151
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I have to disagree.... the at the last 2 months numbers wise... Trout has gone south, Cabrera has gone north. Cabrera is the MVP.
Exactly. Trout had his chance to be the MVP, and he barely hit over .280 for the most important two months of the season. THAT is why he is not the MVP.

Cabrera was a beast the last two months of the season. That's why he IS the MVP.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:09 AM   #152
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Won triple crown and team is in the playoffs...Yep, Miggy wins.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:33 AM   #153
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:57 AM   #154
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Wow, have to agree with KC Connection. While Cabrera's season is impressive, it's largely impressive because it was based on opportunity. If he was in the NL he wouldn't have even won and he's counting on others to not have as good of a year as him. To me, it's kind of a goofy feat. Like hitting for the cycle or a hitting streak or something. It's cool and everything, but there are more important things to key on to define success. With that said, Cabrera had a great season no doubt, one of the best on the year. But I would still put a guy like Trout ahead of him as far as value.

Oh, Bonds never won the triple crown, but remember that year that Bonds hit .370? Had an OBP of almost .600. Hit 73 HR? Hit 33 HR and stole 53 bases? Had a 10+ oWAR year MULTIPLE times? All more impressive than Miguel Cabrera's year this year. So lets not make it out to be what it's not, it's not a year of great great historical value.
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:56 AM   #155
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heh, Dude does something no one else has done in 45 years and people immediately want to downplay and dump all over it.


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Old 10-04-2012, 12:00 PM   #156
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heh, Dude does something no one else has done in 45 years and people immediately want to downplay and dump all over it.


You must be talking about ChiefsPlanet. I wonder how those people would feel if Cabrera was a Royal... or a member of their favorite team (if other than the Royals). It's idiotic.
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A geeky look at offensive numbers only. Trout VS Cabrera.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...text-included/
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:00 PM   #158
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I was very impressed with the Royals crowd last night in their acknowledgement of Cabrera's feat. Everyone I talked with yesterday i wished them a "Happy Triple Crown Day"! Cabrera is the Triple Crown MVP. Haters gonna hate, they always do. Go get 'em Tigers!
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heh, Dude does something no one else has done in 45 years and people immediately want to downplay and dump all over it.


I dont think anyone is downplaying the Triple Crown. Its pretty awesome. What is being downplayed is Trouts season: Dude has accomplished a lot of things not done since the 20's, 30's and 40's. Names like Ty Cobb, Roger Hornsby and Joe Dimaggio are listed in his accomplishments.

FIRST MAJOR LEAGUER EVER TO…

Steal 45 bases, score 125 runs and hit 30 home runs in a single season.
Hit .320 or above with 30 HRs and 45 SBs in a single season.

ELITE COMPANY…

Trout has joined Ted Williams, Mel Ott and Alex Rodriguez as only players to hit .320 or above with 30+ HRs during their 20-year-old seasons.
He is vying to be one of only five players in the Live Ball Era (since 1920) to score at least 130 runs in less than 140 games: Al Simmons – 152 runs in 138 games in 1930, Rogers Hornsby – 133 runs in 138 games in 1925, Joe DiMaggio – 132 runs in 138 games in 1936 and Jimmie Foxx – 130 runs in 124 games in 1939.
At 21, he is the youngest player to steal 40 bases in a season since Ty Cobb in 1907.


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HURRAY!!!!

I love the 'fun with selective end-points' game.

Keep on cutting your lines off just above where Elsbury was last year while cutting them just below where Elsbury exceeded him last year. That's a pretty solid way to make an 'historical' argument out of a season that was most certainly not without precedent.
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HURRAY!!!!

I love the 'fun with selective end-points' game.

Keep on cutting your lines off just above where Elsbury was last year while cutting them just below where Elsbury exceeded him last year. That's a pretty solid way to make an 'historical' argument out of a season that was most certainly not without precedent.
Oh sure, thats why when Ellsbury did what he did, everyone touted all these accomplishments..cool...

Youre kind of an angry guy huh? Well, I guess Id be angry too if I was someones left nut and had to suffocate underwear and crotch sweat all day...
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It's really pointless to argue about it any more. The season is over.

That is, it's over for Trout. Cabrera still has work to do.
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I dont think anyone is downplaying the Triple Crown. Its pretty awesome. What is being downplayed is Trouts season: Dude has accomplished a lot of things not done since the 20's, 30's and 40's. Names like Ty Cobb, Roger Hornsby and Joe Dimaggio are listed in his accomplishments.

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Steal 45 bases, score 125 runs and hit 30 home runs in a single season.
Hit .320 or above with 30 HRs and 45 SBs in a single season.

ELITE COMPANY…

Trout has joined Ted Williams, Mel Ott and Alex Rodriguez as only players to hit .320 or above with 30+ HRs during their 20-year-old seasons.
He is vying to be one of only five players in the Live Ball Era (since 1920) to score at least 130 runs in less than 140 games: Al Simmons – 152 runs in 138 games in 1930, Rogers Hornsby – 133 runs in 138 games in 1925, Joe DiMaggio – 132 runs in 138 games in 1936 and Jimmie Foxx – 130 runs in 124 games in 1939.
At 21, he is the youngest player to steal 40 bases in a season since Ty Cobb in 1907.


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You can really dig throughout MLB history had pull numbers, twist them any way you want.

Jose Canseco had a 40 SBs 40 HR season once.

Trout had a great season, and will have many more. But it wasnt as special as the triple crown. Sorry.
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Oh sure, thats why when Ellsbury did what he did, everyone touted all these accomplishments..cool...

Youre kind of an angry guy huh? Well, I guess Id be angry too if I was someones left nut and had to suffocate underwear and crotch sweat all day...
Really, logon smack?

I mean, it's not like I accused you of being angry because you have a militant lesbian as your avatar or anything.

I've instead continued to point out that the season you continue to tout as being without precedent most assuredly isn't. I could see how that might frustrate you a little.

But please, keep on telling us how Miggy's triple crown isn't relevant because they're arbitrary stats (even though it's actually an honor based on direct relativity), whereas Mike Trout's season is remarkably special because he scored 6 more runs than Ellsbury and stole a few more bases while hitting fewer HRs, striking out more often and driving in fewer runs despite batting in the same spot in the order.

I know typing SECOND MAJOR LEAGUER IN 12 MONTHS TO...

Steal 35 bases, score 115 runs and hit 30 HRs in a single season
Hit .320 with 30 HRs and 35 SBs in a single season.

Isn't nearly as impressive...
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You can really dig throughout MLB history had pull numbers, twist them any way you want.

Jose Canseco had a 40 SBs 40 HR season once.

Trout had a great season, and will have many more. But it wasnt as special as the triple crown. Sorry.
Im not twisitng any numbers or pulling them. This is an article from today (or maybe yesterday). Nonetheless, there are many people who feel Trout deserves to win based on things like what is above. And of course, there are those in the Cabrera camp.

As someone pointed out, theres really no point in arguing the matter, one of these guys is the MVP, (And really both are--they both excelled beyond anyone else when it came to their job)and really both arguements are valid. Its just a matter of which arguement gets sold more...
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