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View Poll Results: Who would you want as our next HC: Billick, Cowher or Gruden?
Billick 12 9.02%
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:54 AM  
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Who would you want as our next HC: Billick, Cowher or Gruden?

I heard this being discussed on the radio today. Yes, I would like a new HC for next season. I never was sold on Crennel. My pick would be, and always has been, Cowher. My close second choice woudl be Gruden. But, I would be OK with Billick.

Would you have a problem with any of these three guys being HC and GM? Supposedly, Cowher would probably want to wear the GM hat too.

Obviously, if you choose "other" please state who and why.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:31 PM   #106
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:14 PM   #107
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Well said. We need to be the trend-setters. That's why neither Billick, Cowher, or Gruden can be the point man moving forward.
We could, but only if they fit our vision of what the owner (in a perfect world where Clark has a clear vision of what he want's) agrees...
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:23 PM   #108
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:18 PM   #109
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Why would anyone advocate hiring a guy that hasn't coached in five years or more?
Because of a few reasons

1) his defensive philosophy meshes PERFECTLY with the strengths of our defensive personnel.

2) he has a lot of ties to Pittsburgh and they have always had the formula for winning.

3) he knows it takes a franchise quarterback to win.

4) he has ties to KC and wouldn't need to completely overhaul the roster to make us competitive and if he gets a quarterback we could contend inside of 2 years.
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:26 PM   #110
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Because of a few reasons

1) his defensive philosophy meshes PERFECTLY with the strengths of our defensive personnel.

2) he has a lot of ties to Pittsburgh and they have always had the formula for winning.

3) he knows it takes a franchise quarterback to win.

4) he has ties to KC and wouldn't need to completely overhaul the roster to make us competitive and if he gets a quarterback we could contend inside of 2 years.
Bullshit.

All of it.

Plus, he clearly has NO desire to coach again at age 55, so why drag him back in?
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:37 PM   #111
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Bullshit.

All of it.

Plus, he clearly has NO desire to coach again at age 55, so why drag him back in?
It's not like he always had an elite QB. I never got the impression he was always desperate or believed that it's all he needed.
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:38 PM   #112
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Bullshit.

All of it.

Plus, he clearly has NO desire to coach again at age 55, so why drag him back in?
Not all of it is bullshit.

1. Cowher's philosophy does mesh well, especially considering the personnel we have.

2. Valid.

3. Meh. He did play Kordell Stewart and Maddox

4. Definitely agree with this. Although, Cowher will likely overturn the roster due to change from 2 to 1-gap and from a regime change.


That being said, I still don't want Cowher unless he could steal Keith Butler away from Pittsburgh.

That for me, is the only way I could personally enjoy Cowher being here (success notwithstanding)
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:56 PM   #113
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Not all of it is bullshit.

1. Cowher's philosophy does mesh well, especially considering the personnel we have.

2. Valid.

3. Meh. He did play Kordell Stewart and Maddox

4. Definitely agree with this. Although, Cowher will likely overturn the roster due to change from 2 to 1-gap and from a regime change.


That being said, I still don't want Cowher unless he could steal Keith Butler away from Pittsburgh.

That for me, is the only way I could personally enjoy Cowher being here (success notwithstanding)


Did Bill Walsh quit the year after he won his first Super Bowl?

Lombardi? Landry? Noll? Shanahan? Billick? McCarthy?

How about Holmgren? Flores? Belichick? Coughlin?

Do you "get it" or not?
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:58 PM   #114
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It's not like he always had an elite QB. I never got the impression he was always desperate or believed that it's all he needed.
Cowher dint believe in it, either.

Kent Graham, Mike Tomczack, Tommy Maddox, etc.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:02 AM   #115
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Did Bill Walsh quit the year after he won his first Super Bowl?

Lombardi? Landry? Noll? Shanahan? Billick? McCarthy?

How about Holmgren? Flores? Belichick? Coughlin?

Do you "get it" or not?
If you're trying to say that every human being has the same reasoning and motivations to continue in a difficult line of work that is taxing notbonly physically but mentally as well, IDK what to say to you. Besides the obvious fact that is is ignorant and incorrect.


I know plenty of people who are Olympic and NCAA champs who didn't compete and who didn't have the same level of motivation after winning a championship. Not every person is the same.


That being said, I DON'T WANT COWHER!
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:02 AM   #116
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Cowher dint believe in it, either.

Kent Graham, Mike Tomczack, Tommy Maddox, etc.
Totally. My main point against hiring Cowher.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:04 AM   #117
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If you're trying to say that every human being has the same reasoning and motivations to continue in a difficult line of work that is taxing notbonly physically but mentally as well, IDK what to say to you. Besides the obvious fact that is is ignorant and incorrect.


I know plenty of people who are Olympic and NCAA champs who didn't compete and who didn't have the same level of motivation after winning a championship. Not every person is the same.


That being said, I DON'T WANT COWHER!
JFC. The guy hasn't coached since 2006.

2006.

Why defend the possibly of his hire?
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:08 AM   #118
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yeah, Vermeil didnt coach for 20 ****ing years and came back and won in St Louis, for whatever reasons anyone wants to spin, he did it.

That being said, i dont want Cowher either, i really dont care who, if we dont get a qb, it all means nothing.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:13 AM   #119
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JFC. The guy hasn't coached since 2006.

2006.

Why defend the possibly of his hire?
Because it is a MB and we deal in hypotheticals here. I like to hear others opinions and take the good and bad from all perspectives.

I agree with you Dane.

Personally, I couldn't justify hiring him, despite his accolades. Not only are our philosophical beliefs different but our backgrounds and evaluations processes are different (again, this is from the GM perspective)

However, worst case scenario, if Cowher somehow was hired, I think that him coming into our 3-4 personnel and his experiences as a head coach/in KC wouldn't serve as a hindrance.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:14 AM   #120
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yeah, Vermeil didnt coach for 20 ****ing years and came back and won in St Louis, for whatever reasons anyone wants to spin, he did it.

That being said, i dont want Cowher either, i really dont care who, if we dont get a qb, it all means nothing.
Vermeil's record was shit. He was about to be fired after three years on the job.

John Shaw FORCED Mike Martz on him, took away his personnel decisions, signed Trent Green, traded for Marshall Faulk, drafted Torrey Holt and so on

The Chiefs situation isn't even remotely similar, nor is Cowher.
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