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Old 10-05-2011, 03:30 PM  
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Baby kidnapped from home in KC

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Old 05-22-2012, 11:17 AM   #841
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Update from Star.....havent heard anything in months. Sounds like a Cold Case now.



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Old 05-22-2012, 12:21 PM   #842
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It isn't a cold case. There are 3 detectives that are still assigned to this full time. They do nothing but work on this case.
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Old 05-22-2012, 12:25 PM   #843
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my wife said they were on the Today show a few days ago, the husband claiming his debit card was stolen and used on some website where you can change your childs name. Of course when producers went there it was a stationary site...
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Old 05-22-2012, 12:25 PM   #844
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:55 AM   #845
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The Irwin family home on North Lister in Kansas City, Mo., looks deceptively normal. The father leaves every morning to go to work while the mother stays at home to care for the couple's two young boys. In the afternoon, neighborhood kids can be seen playing in the yard.

But inside the house is a little girl's room that has been virtually untouched for a year. The room belongs to baby Lisa Irwin who vanished from her crib, seemingly without a trace exactly a year ago on Wednesday.

"They've got Lisa's room intact," Irwin family attorney John Picerno told ABCNews.com, referring to Lisa's parents Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin. "They still try to honor her. They still believe that she is alive. They buy clothes that will fit her when she comes home. They try to buy gifts for her to celebrate the various holidays as the holidays pass."

Lisa disappeared the night of Oct. 3, 2011 from her home and the family has maintained from the beginning that the girl was abducted from her bedroom inside the home while her father was at work and her mother and brothers were asleep in another room.

Deborah Bradley, 26, and the girl's father Jeremy Irwin, 30, became a focal point for suspicion by both the public and the police. The relationship between the parents and the Kansas City Police Department has been contentious, with frequent public sparring between the two.

They argued about issues including the extent of the parents' cooperation, polygraph tests and interviewing Lisa's two young brothers.

One year later, the tense relationship has resurfaced as unsatisfied police suggest that they are still seeking more information from Bradley.

"Police have exhausted leads provided by Lisa Irwin's family and their attorneys, and the leads were of no benefit to the investigation," the KCPD said in a statement. "While communication with the family has been ongoing, police have not had the opportunity to sit down one-on-one to speak with Lisa's mother, Deborah Bradley. As the only adult in the home at the time of the baby's disappearance, police continue to have questions to which only she can provide answers."

Picerno said he and his clients were taken aback by the police's statement.

"We were very, very surprised that KCPD, first of all, issued a press release in and of itself," he said. "Second, we were surprised with the tone of the press release, particularly since we believe that what's in the press release relative to Jeremy and Deborah is simply untrue."

Picerno acknowledged that there was a breakdown in communication between authorities and the parents after over 30 hours of initial questioning with the couple. He said that Bradley and Irwin sat down with police again in February, but conceded that Bradley has not sat for a one-on-one with investigators.

"They haven't but they can certainly sit down one-on-one with me present and ask any questions," he said. "I'm not going to stop them. What we don't want is another situation where they're doing a full-blown interrogation where they're standing up and accusing her and they're showing pictures of her missing girl and they're confronting her with all this evidence."

Picerno said his client has a right to counsel and "a right not to be abused or threatened by detectives."

When asked if he believes investigators suspect Bradley, he responded with caution.

Baby Lisa's Room Unchanged A Year After She Vanished
"You can look in the media. I think it's pretty obvious where they're at," Picerno said. "They've said she's not a suspect so I'm not going to quibble over the words. But I think if you look back over what's been in the media and what they've said over the last year, what they think, I think, is pretty obvious. It's obvious to me."

Bradley faced public scrutiny in the days following Lisa's disappearance due to her changing timeline of the events of the night and the revelation that she had been drinking the night Lisa disappeared.

"Pretty much the only thing that I'm guilty of is drinking too much. And even when she comes back, that's something I have to live with, that I might have heard something and been able to stop them," a tearful Bradley told Dr. Phil McGraw in February.

She said the issues have been blown out of proportion and that she is neither an alcoholic nor a neglectful parent.

"It is literally impossible to remember every single detail and say it exactly the same every single time and there are so many negative people or hateful people that have picked it all apart," Bradley said. "If I had done something, I'd be in jail right now."

The family is planning a vigil for Wednesday evening with family, friends and supporters.

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Old 10-05-2012, 12:05 PM   #846
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Ill say this, whoever disposed of the body did an excellent job of hiding it.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:20 PM   #847
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Still think the parents did it. Accident or intentional.....they did it.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:31 PM   #848
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Still think the parents did it. Accident or intentional.....they did it.
Oh, i think everyone knows this, but without a body and mostly circumstantial evidence.......
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

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Old 10-05-2012, 12:37 PM   #849
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:44 PM   #851
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While I was recuperating from a back operation, I had the opportunity to watch some television. One of the shows I got sort of hooked on was this program called "48 hours" or something like that. Its about real-life police detectives that try and solve murders.

Anyhow, after a few episodes it struck me just how easy it is to get away with murder in the USofA. Even in the modern era of DNA forensics, all you have to do is not be completely stupid and avoid being seen by human witnesses or a camera. Even if you are suspected, just get a good attorney and the likelihood of being charged (in the absence of a confession, direct evidence, or one hell of a motive) is dependent solely on the local prosecutor's office's workload.

The justice legal system has become a sort of bizarre popularity contest. I don't know how many murders go "unsolved" in this country, but I'll bet the percentages would be shockingly high.

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Old 10-05-2012, 12:49 PM   #852
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While I was recuperating from a back operation, I had the opportunity to watch some television. One of the shows I got sort of hooked on was this program called "48 hours" or something like that. Its about real-life police detectives that try and solve murders.

Anyhow, after a few episodes it struck me just how easy it is to get away with murder in the USofA. Even in the modern era of DNA forensics, all you have to do is not be completely stupid and avoid being seen by human witnesses or a camera. Even if you are suspected, just get a good attorney and the likelihood of being charged (in the absence of a confession, direct evidence, or one hell of a motive) is dependent solely on the local prosecutor's office's workload.

The justice legal system has become a sort of bizarre popularity contest. I don't know how many murders go "unsolved" in this country, but I'll bet the percentages would be shockingly high.

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I agree. In the past, I've watched shows like 48 hours and Dateline and it seems as if the people that get caught are just lazy, clueless or just plain dumb.

On one episode, a lady was caught on video purchasing muriatic acid from Home Depot just one day before her spouse was reported missing. I purchase muriatic all the time for tile cleaning, so I'm fully aware of its potency but really? One day before?
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:50 PM   #853
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I agree. In the past, I've watched shows like 48 hours and Dateline and it seems as if the people that get caught are just lazy, clueless or just plain dumb.

On one episode, a lady was caught on video purchasing muriatic acid from Home Depot just one day before her spouse was reported missing. I purchase muriatic all the time for tile cleaning, so I'm fully aware of its potency but really? One day before?
All you have to do is watch shows like 48 hours, CSI and Law and Order and you'll have enough helpful tips on how to get away with murder.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:51 PM   #854
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Still think the parents did it. Accident or intentional.....they did it.
I agree.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:56 PM   #855
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All you have to do is watch shows like 48 hours, CSI and Law and Order and you'll have enough helpful tips on how to get away with murder.
That’s why most police departments have stopped cooperating with those shows. They’re giving away their best secrets and criminals are getting smarter for it.
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