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Old 09-17-2012, 04:06 PM  
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Romney: 47% of Americans are victims

I guess this maybe the kill shot for his campaign. I know some of you believe you this and won't find a problem with what he said but as a person running for POTUS you probably shouldn't write off 1/2 the country especially in a disparaging way.

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A hidden camera video of Mitt Romney at a fundraiser shows him talking disparagingly of people who will vote for President Obama.

Said Romney: "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what...These are people who pay no income tax."

He adds: "My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:07 AM   #916
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Romney today............... Forget what I said for the previously 17 days.... I was totally wrong.
You REALLY want to play that game?
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:08 AM   #917
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You REALLY want to play that game?
The game of Romney's disingenuousness?

Do we really need to prove it at this point?
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:10 AM   #918
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The game of Romney's disingenuousness?

Do we really need to prove it at this point?
There are 4 years worth of disingenuous comments from O..
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:16 AM   #919
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You REALLY want to play that game?
Obama is not the flip flopper in the race.
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:20 AM   #920
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:24 AM   #921
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There are 4 years worth of disingenuous comments from O..
Interesting...

How does that change anything Romney's said?
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:41 AM   #922
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Interesting...

How does that change anything Romney's said?
Answer: It doesn't.
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:09 PM   #923
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I guess this maybe the kill shot for his campaign. I know some of you believe you this and won't find a problem with what he said but as a person running for POTUS you probably shouldn't write off 1/2 the country especially in a disparaging way.
Until the first debate. Then they'll see that no teleprompter = no answers from Obama. They'll see a lifetime community organizer who has no clue on how to help the economy. They'll see a deer in the headlights, when pushed for answers, instead of a leader and realize he has no business being President of the United States of America.
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Old 10-05-2012, 03:54 PM   #924
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Until the first debate. Then they'll see that no teleprompter = no answers from Obama. They'll see a lifetime community organizer who has no clue on how to help the economy. They'll see a deer in the headlights, when pushed for answers, instead of a leader and realize he has no business being President of the United States of America.
Are you referring to the economy that went belly up when he took office and is now recovering?

Furthermore, are you equating a debate with the job of the president? They are two very different things. The majority of the people who claim Romney won list body language and tempo of speech as one of the largest reasons. What does that have to do with being president? I would think performing actions based on facts would be a great indicator.
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Old 10-05-2012, 04:08 PM   #925
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It is pretty ridiculous to say you were completely wrong about what you just defended as correct a couple of weeks ago.

Also: are all of the people in this thread who defended it completely wrong too? Where are they at now? Which time was romney correct?
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Old 10-05-2012, 04:11 PM   #926
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It is pretty ridiculous to say you were completely wrong about what you just defended as correct a couple of weeks ago.

Also: are all of the people in this thread who defended it completely wrong too? Where are they at now? Which time was romney correct?
I have not been a fan of his from the start, he is the only option. Him backing away from a truthful statement is disappointing~
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:16 PM   #927
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It is pretty ridiculous to say you were completely wrong about what you just defended as correct a couple of weeks ago.

Also: are all of the people in this thread who defended it completely wrong too? Where are they at now? Which time was romney correct?
I'd like to field your question, but I'm not sure what you're talking about. I suspect the answer is "both times" though.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:57 AM   #928
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I have not been a fan of his from the start, he is the only option. Him backing away from a truthful statement is disappointing~
It's pretty clear to me that these guys are both charlatans, although their personalities seem to bring that out in different ways. Obama just does it in a more classic politician way clothing his intentions behind aspirations (hope, whatever) that he has zero intention of following through on. With romney though I cant remember another politician who we could literally make a tape of taking both sides of every issue depending on who his audience is. He appears to have no core, moral or political. Whatever it takes to close the deal. I really have no hesitation in stating that this is the worst presidential choice of my lifetime.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:59 AM   #929
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I'd like to field your question, but I'm not sure what you're talking about. I suspect the answer is "both times" though.
So the statement is both correct and not correct?
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Old 10-06-2012, 09:38 AM   #930
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I have not been a fan of his from the start, he is the only option. Him backing away from a truthful statement is disappointing~
I don't agree with you about it being a truthful statement. But I have respect for you for at least saying this, whereas with Patteau it's just spin spin spin.
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