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Old 10-06-2012, 12:06 PM  
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Congressional "scientist" notes that evolution is from the "pit of hell"

Dude is the chair of the House Science Committee's panel on investigations and oversight. LOL

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U.S. Rep. Paul Broun's view that the theories of evolution and the big bang are "lies straight from the pit of Hell" is getting more exposure than he might have expected, thanks to a video that was made at a church-sponsored banquet in Georgia and distributed by a progressive political watchdog group.

The Georgia Republican is already well-known as an outspoken conservative Christian, due in part to his unsuccessful campaign to have 2010 declared "the Year of the Bible."

But the latest comments have taken on an extra dab of controversy because Broun, a medical doctor, calls himself a scientist in the video and chairs the House Science Committee's panel on investigations and oversight.

The video clip, distributed by the Bridge Project, was taken from a longer version recorded on Sept. 27 during the 2012 Sportsman's Banquet at Liberty Baptist Church in Hartwell, Ga. Here's a transcript of the Bridge Project's snippet:

"God's word is true. I've come to understand that. All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and the big bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of Hell. And it's lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior. You see, there are a lot of scientific data that I've found out as a scientist that actually show that this is really a young Earth. I don't believe that the earth's but about 9,000 years old. I believe it was created in six days as we know them. That's what the Bible says.
"And what I've come to learn is that it's the manufacturer's handbook, is what I call it. It teaches us how to run our lives individually, how to run our families, how to run our churches. But it teaches us how to run all of public policy and everything in society. And that's the reason as your congressman I hold the Holy Bible as being the major directions to me of how I vote in Washington, D.C., and I'll continue to do that."

Broun's comments were greeted with applause, and they probably reflect how a lot of his constituents feel about the same issues. He's assured of re-election in any case, due to the fact that he has no Democratic Party challenger in next month's election. But how will Broun's latest pronouncements play out on a national stage? Will they have any effect on the presidential campaign?
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Old 10-06-2012, 06:00 PM   #61
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There's no reason you can't believe in God and science at the same time. But to deny the Big Bang and claim the earth is 6000 years old is just ignorant. You're no different than the Catholic Church punishing Galileo for proclaiming your earth rotated around the sun, or the flat-earth society.
I know MANY atheists who deny the big bang, and the Catholic Church is on your side of the argument for the most part.
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Old 10-06-2012, 06:46 PM   #62
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Sorry for your bad experience, I don't see how Christianity would/should limit you. There is a difference between going through the motions (Religion) and actually believing and doing what the Lord shows you in your heart. That being said so many are stuck doing the motions when they should have graduated and moved on into greater things.
You don't have to say sorry. There's nothing to be sorry for. It wasn't a bad experience at all. It taught me a lot. It's given me unique insight on both sides of the fence.

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Old 10-06-2012, 08:43 PM   #63
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A good friend of mine(known since HS)who has regularly attended church since he was a child.

Even HE does not dismiss Evolution.

He also laughs at the notion that the Earth is only 6000 yrs old.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:54 PM   #64
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A good friend of mine(known since HS)who has regularly attended church since he was a child.

Even HE does not dismiss Evolution.

He also laughs at the notion that the Earth is only 6000 yrs old.
More evidence of what the Church produces..I tell Christians to stay out of churches and study to show yourself approved.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:57 PM   #65
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If you really do the math, your last statement would be "...corrupted so badly after that point by so FEW." I have sympathy for people like Bump where a bad interaction with the church turned them off to the truth at such an impressionable age . It's not his fault, rather the fault of those that seemingly corrupted the Word for their use as a tool of fear and intimidation.
I don't need sympathy. I feel fine, I certainly don't feel that it turned me off to any truth? what do you mean?
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:09 PM   #66
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:10 PM   #67
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And the guy speaking in the OP sounds like he's straight out of the 1700's.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:18 PM   #68
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More evidence of what the Church produces..I tell Christians to stay out of churches and study to show yourself approved.
How about you educate yourself and others by removing the blinders?
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:31 PM   #69
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I don't need sympathy. I feel fine, I certainly don't feel that it turned me off to any truth? what do you mean?
It doesn't matter, I still feel bad for you based on the experience you had. The truth meaning that a loving, kind, caring, accepting, understanding Christ died for ALL of OUR sins and that nothing you can do will ever be beyond forgiveness. He didn't walk among the noblemen of his time, he went to where the people were hurting, the broken, the poor, the homeless, the criminals, the deviants. He didn't care about any of that. He just loved. You can laugh at me, it's ok. It is what I believe. Man I need to ask for forgiveness from some people around here...
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:33 PM   #70
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How about you educate yourself and others by removing the blinders?
Indoctrination into the cult? no thank you.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:54 PM   #72
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It doesn't matter, I still feel bad for you based on the experience you had. The truth meaning that a loving, kind, caring, accepting, understanding Christ died for ALL of OUR sins and that nothing you can do will ever be beyond forgiveness. He didn't walk among the noblemen of his time, he went to where the people were hurting, the broken, the poor, the homeless, the criminals, the deviants. He didn't care about any of that. He just loved. You can laugh at me, it's ok. It is what I believe. Man I need to ask for forgiveness from some people around here...
This is YOUR belief.

It does nothing for me.
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:00 PM   #73
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:21 PM   #74
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This is YOUR belief.

It does nothing for me.
Cool. I didn't say it had anything to do anything for you. You don't have to believe what I believe... to love unconditionally. I never said that. Why all the anger about what I believe? I am not forcing anything on you. It gives me some hope when I am at my lowest... like now. Peace.
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:30 PM   #75
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It doesn't matter, I still feel bad for you based on the experience you had. The truth meaning that a loving, kind, caring, accepting, understanding Christ died for ALL of OUR sins and that nothing you can do will ever be beyond forgiveness. He didn't walk among the noblemen of his time, he went to where the people were hurting, the broken, the poor, the homeless, the criminals, the deviants. He didn't care about any of that. He just loved. You can laugh at me, it's ok. It is what I believe. Man I need to ask for forgiveness from some people around here...
There was no Christ, he didn't die for everybody's sin. that shit is ****ing stupid as hell. If the book lord of the rings was written then and marketed by the same people, you would be worshiping Frodo right now instead.
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