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Old 10-07-2012, 02:44 PM  
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Eric Winston was very angry at the cheering when Cassel got hurt. Held court w/ the media for a few min about that in the Chiefs locker room
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:14 PM   #766
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Maybe, just maybe the people, majority or minority, large or small, who created this situation could just own it. While the rest of the Chiefs fans who DID NOT CLAP, SMILE, OR BREATHE a sigh of relief or joy could just allow those who did this be vilified for the scum they are. If both teams heard and commented on fans taking joy in a players injury before they had a chance to read PR points from Pioli or any other secret agent, then perhaps the PLAYERS PERCEIVED SOMETHING VERY DISTURBING happening with the fans in the stands and that energy could be heard and felt on the field.

Those of us who never wished Cassel injury, suffering, or death could move with their day not insulted or otherwise bothered by the downpour of legitimate criticism being leveled at those who acted inappropriately. We can also be honest enough to know that the treatment of Cassel up until his injury could cause honest and decent people to not give ALL Chiefs fans the benefit of the doubt.

Those of us who did not do this can get their knickers out of a twist and stop taking personally. They aren't talking about me when they are talking about ignorant, ruthless, uncivil, rude, pathetic people in Chiefs gear rooting for someone's injury. Those of us who do not act like that need not carry the burden of those who do.
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:16 PM   #767
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Matt Cassel is - literally - the worst QB in the league


and this is what we get....blows my mind into outer space...
The irony has not been lost on me. Nor has the steelery.

Right now, the conversation should be about improving the team (however that might be accomplished) ... not about how Chiefs fans are the evolutionary equivalent of a vaginal bacterium.

Yet here we are defending ourselves against ourselves.

Pioli is a tactical genius.

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Old 10-08-2012, 12:16 PM   #768
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This is all true, but, eventually, one would think that the Clarks would have to provide some sort of answer to intense fan dissatisfaction.

If not, the continued silence will be its own answer.
This is true, as long as the fans who believe this make up the majority. Not sure if that's the case or not. Or... you're right, they could just think this will change once Pioli's plan works and keep charging ahead.
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:17 PM   #769
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how much money to we have to raise to have you killed?
I'm sure there are assholes like yourself out there who will do it for free.
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:19 PM   #770
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There have been hundreds of massive books written on the subject of damage control.

Chapter 1 is "Never Overreact".

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Old 10-08-2012, 12:19 PM   #771
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And you see this happening how? These people will ride unicorns over a rainbow onto an ESPN set and publicly apologize to Cassel and Pioli for how inept they both are at their jobs?
I've heard callers on both sports talk radio stations call in an say they cheered and aren't sorry for it. I don't agree with their actions but I give them kudos for not pretending they didn't do what many people obviously did.

Fans need to admit that a good percentage of people in the stadium acted inappropriately. If it wasn't you then don't be offended. But don't try to argue that it didn't happen because clearly something did happen to the point that both teams noticed and a few players from both teams spoke out against it.
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:20 PM   #772
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The irony has not been lost on me. Nor has the steelery.

Right now, the conversation should be about improving the team (however that might be accomplished) ... not about how Chiefs fans are the evolutionary equivalent of a vaginal bacterium.

Yet here we are defending ourselves against ourselves.

Pioli is a tactical genius.

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This is true, as long as the fans who believe this make up the majority. Not sure if that's the case or not. Or... you're right, they could just think this will change once Pioli's plan works and keep charging ahead.
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Given how vociferous the media has been in attacking Pioli and Cassel, I believe this is starting to represent the mainstream, otherwise guys like Teicher and Mellinger risk alienating their readership, which is most certainly not the CP crowd.
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:21 PM   #774
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If both teams heard and commented on fans taking joy in a players injury before they had a chance to read PR points from Pioli or any other secret agent, then perhaps the PLAYERS PERCEIVED SOMETHING VERY DISTURBING happening with the fans in the stands and that energy could be heard and felt on the field.
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Where do Ravens players say anything? All I have seen is Ngata comment on a tweet about him hurting Cassel. That response by Ngata had nothing to do with the injury to Matt and the booing. In fact, I am pretty sure that happened before the game.

Did anyone here Collin Cowherd(spelling*) today. He had Randy Covitz on today and Covitz defended the fans saying it was more about getting a change than it was about Matt himself being hurt.
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:21 PM   #775
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You know we are in the right when a stupid bitch like Duhneise and jIZ is on the opposite side of the majority.
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Sam Mellinger is going to be on ESPN2 at 1:30 to discuss this.

Judging by his twitter comments, he seems to think this is overblown, but he also thinks some people were definitely cheering that Cassel got hurt. So if a KC columnist puts that out there, you can probably forget any hope of apologies or retractions.

EDIT: ESPN2, not ESPN.
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Hard to defeat a psychotic when you don't think like one. Pisoli is obviously good at it to make it to this level.
This sounds like a paranoid schizophrenic or at the least delusional thinking. Scott Pioli did not orchestrate a cascading of negative emotions directed towards Chiefs fans regarding cheering Cassel's injury anymore than he planted people to too cheer so that he'd have something to divert attention from his crappy job or illustrate how pathetic the fan base is.

Fans of the team created this story. Fans pretending it didn't happen and that there is some mass conspiracy are simply making matters worse.
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Hard to defeat a psychotic when you don't think like one. Pisoli is obviously good at it to make it to this level.
The best way to defeat a narcissist is to keep the pressure on, Mr. stonedstooge. Consistently and continually. They simply cannot stand the rejection and criticism. Eventually, they spontaneously pop like an unexpected elevator fart.

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Where do Ravens players say anything? All I have seen is Ngata comment on a tweet about him hurting Cassel. That response by Ngata had nothing to do with the injury to Matt and the booing. In fact, I am pretty sure that happened before the game.

Did anyone here Collin Cowherd(spelling*) today. He had Randy Covitz on today and Covitz defended the fans saying it was more about getting a change than it was about Matt himself being hurt.

“For them to cheer for him being hurt,” Ngata said, “that’s just not cool.”


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Players TRY to hurt each other. Players and Coaches are suspended RIGHT NOW for paying to hurt people. Ray Lewis played at Arrowhead yesterday and he's helped KILL people.


So sorry if I'm not feeling the pain of Eric The Snow Fence Winston.
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