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Old 10-08-2012, 02:28 PM  
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PFF refocused: Ravens/Chiefs

The part about Houston and Hali is awesome.

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Kansas City – Three Performances of Note

Game of Two Halves

While his overall stat line (30 carries for 140 yards) looks impressive, running back Jamaal Charles (+0.7) wore down in a big way in the second half as the Ravens did a much better job of containing the Chiefs rushing attack. As a team they ran for 179 yards on 34 carries in the first half but managed just 35 yards on 16 carries in the second half working out at a drop of 3.2 yards per carry from one half to the next. Usually a team runs the ball to that level to wear down an opponent but it was the Chiefs who tired this time. That left a Chiefs offense that had no faith in its quarterback and what looked like no Plan B in the second half against a Ravens team that wasn’t at its best on this occasion.


Complete Pass Rush

Chiefs fans have waited for the defense to get production from both pass rushers in the one game and that wait was rewarded by both Tamba Hali (+3.3) and Justin Houston (+5.6) as the duo combined for 13 total pressures. Houston, our most productive pass rusher amongst 3-4 outside linebackers going into the game outperformed his teammate again on Sunday, generating two sacks and six hurries on his way to a PRP Rating of 28.9. Hali matched him in sacks and added another three hurries of his own. His second sack came in controversial fashion on 2nd-and-10 with 3:42 remaining in the game. Blowing by Osemele on the outside he was able to get his hands on Flacco causing the official to blow the play dead seconds before Flacco fumbled. It’s the right call if he believes the quarterback was in the grasp but it’s a call that could have turned the game nonetheless.


Matt Cassel

With an apparent concussion to starting quarterback Matt Cassel (-1.1), it looks like Chiefs fans will get their wish to see Brady Quinn (+0.9 ) attempt to drive the offense towards the end zone. But while Chiefs fans have been quick to look to Quinn as their saviour (or at least a better option) it’s worth pointing out that Cassel wasn’t necessarily as awful as his stat line shows. While his fumble at the goal line on with 11:54 left in the 3rd quarter was inexcusable (likewise his delay of game penalty at the end of the first half) neither interception was the result of a poor throw or decision. The first came from a pass deflection from cornerback Cary Williams while the second was the result of a dropped pass from Dwayne Bowe. We’re not saying he was good by any stretch, but is a switch to Brady Quinn really going to fix the problem? Time will tell.


Game Notes

- Coming into the game completing 39% of his passes beyond 20 yards, both of Flacco’s deep passes fell incomplete.


- Sticking with the Ravens passing game, the team combined to drop four passes on Sunday – twice as many in this game that they had in their four prior games.

- Jamaal Charles’ yards per carry dropped from 6.3 in the first half to 1.5 in the second half.


Game Ball
While he wasn’t flawless, Paul Kruger stepped his play up in a big way and was played a big role in the team stopping a Chiefs running game that gashed them in the first half.
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:59 PM   #2
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Yesterday I heard people arguing that neither interception was Cassel's fault.
I've also heard that the interceptions WERE Bowe's fault. I call bullshit on both counts.

The first interception was a great play made by the defender to get a hand in and tip the ball up.
Wasn't Cassel's fault. Wasn't Bowe's fault.

The second interception was a bad throw. The ball was thrown high and to the back shoulder. A back shoulder throw on a crossing route going the other way. Horrible ball placement. Bowe had to leave his feet. That was definitely on Cassel.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:20 PM   #3
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Yesterday I heard people arguing that neither interception was Cassel's fault.
I've also heard that the interceptions WERE Bowe's fault. I call bullshit on both counts.

The first interception was a great play made by the defender to get a hand in and tip the ball up.
Wasn't Cassel's fault. Wasn't Bowe's fault.

The second interception was a bad throw. The ball was thrown high and to the back shoulder. A back shoulder throw on a crossing route going the other way. Horrible ball placement. Bowe had to leave his feet. That was definitely on Cassel.
Bad throw but Bowe should have caught the 2nd one.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:26 PM   #4
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Bad throw but Bowe should have caught the 2nd one.
Correct on both counts. Sure would be nice if our WRs could just catch a ball in stride once in a while just so they can see what it's like.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:29 PM   #5
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Correct on both counts. Sure would be nice if our WRs could just catch a ball in stride once in a while just so they can see what it's like.
That's kooky talk./MC
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:31 PM   #6
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Brady Quinn is not the answer.

He will be marginally better, but no worse than Cassel.

Brady Quinn will confirm that the Chiefs have 3 QB's that are not starters.

Quinn might be back up material
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:35 PM   #7
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Yesterday I heard people arguing that neither interception was Cassel's fault.
I've also heard that the interceptions WERE Bowe's fault. I call bullshit on both counts.

The first interception was a great play made by the defender to get a hand in and tip the ball up.
Wasn't Cassel's fault. Wasn't Bowe's fault.

The second interception was a bad throw. The ball was thrown high and to the back shoulder. A back shoulder throw on a crossing route going the other way. Horrible ball placement. Bowe had to leave his feet. That was definitely on Cassel.
If I'm remembering right, Cassel was staring down Bowe on the first INT and drew a lot of defenders into Bowes direction. In result, the DB had more than enough flexibility to make that play.
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Brady Quinn strikes me as a guy who will go out and throw 4 picks instead of checking it down.

Different kind of suck, incoming.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:39 PM   #9
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The first pick should never have happened. Maneri was wide open on the other side of the field and could have crawled at least to the 5
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Brady Quinn strikes me as a guy who will go out and throw 4 picks instead of checking it down.

Different kind of suck, incoming.
Or set the league on fire
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Brady Quinn is not the answer.

He will be marginally better, but no worse than Cassel.

Brady Quinn will confirm that the Chiefs have 3 QB's that are not starters.

Quinn might be back up material
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Brady Quinn strikes me as a guy who will go out and throw 4 picks instead of checking it down.

Different kind of suck, incoming.
There's some truth to this.

Quinn will do more thing that actively piss us off. He'll fire a couple of balls downfield that miss their target by 5 feet and end up getting picked. He'll also force balls into coverage that you silently pray find grass instead of an opponent.

But as you've noted - it's a different kind of suck. It's a more hopeful form of suck where we can at least see the occasional flashes of what some of the talent on this team could do with a real QB at the helm....right before a backbreaking interception.

It's essentially like being caned instead of whipped. In the end, it's probably the best we can hope for.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:44 PM   #13
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There's also a rust factor with Quinn that's probably gonna be bigger than anyone wants to admit right now.

We're gonna try and win 10-6 again.
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:48 PM   #14
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"We’re not saying he was good by any stretch, but is a switch to Brady Quinn really going to fix the problem?"

I'm sayin' Brady Quinn fixed several problems evident in the Chiefs passing game. The first problem Quinn fixed was evident in the first pass he attempted. A lazer to a tight spot where Dwayne Bowe was lurking, and that was not gonna happen coming from Matty C's Juan Marichal style delivery.

If Quinn can continue to hit his mark, he's going to be fine. He looked good during several plays.
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