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Old 10-09-2012, 04:36 PM  
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So Cassel is clearly the wrong guy, but what should Pioli have done?

So with my finely tuned senses and amazing powers of perception, I have detected some small modicum of dislike for Mr. Cassel, and for Mr. Pioli as well. I realize that the hatred of Pioli is for more reasons than going with Cassel, but it seems to me that not only is the Cassel deal a big part of why people hate him, but a part of why the Chiefs are losing so much, which also leads to hating the GM who built the team.

Putting aside the keep Orton option, which I'd agree the Chiefs should have done, what does ChiefsPlanet say Pioli should have done with the QB position? Clearly Sanchez is NOT an answer either, so Pioli made the right move in not spending a high 1st round pick on him. I'm also not aware of any Drew Brees to Miami level screw ups in terms of QB options that were ignored.

So what realistic move should Pioli have made, but didn't, at the QB position that pisses everybody off so much?

Heck, someone on here (GoChiefs) had a link on a post I saw explaining why Pioli should be fired, and the discussion of all the options he had other than Cassel were really pretty pathetic.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:51 PM   #31
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:52 PM   #32
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If you had actually watched the games instead of looking at stats, you wouldn't be asking this question.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:52 PM   #33
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sanchez was obviously the right move, as 2 AFC championship games proves...he walked into your stadium and took a shit on your franchise
Dude....the only thing he's shitting is his pants.

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and your comparison to brees is embarrassing...don't be that one dumb pats fan

I'm the dumb one, not the guy saying cut him after a 27 TD, 7 INT season? You thought you KNEW after that season that there was no room for growth? He couldn't turn into a very good QB? He was just a pathetic POS useless turd of a QB? That was CERTAIN after a 27-7 season?

Your crystal ball must be really clear. You should play the lottery or something.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:53 PM   #34
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I don't think you can put aside the Orton option if you're asking what really should have been done.

Not that he was the answer but it was clearly evident last year he was the better QB of the two.

Yeah, maybe that answer is sufficient. I didn't know if there was another one or not. Just sticking with Cassel instead of Orton certainly hasn't worked out well to say the least.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:54 PM   #35
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:54 PM   #36
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You can't sit here and say those quarterbacks wouldn't have turned out differently on a different team.

And besides, Kyle Orton is obviously superior to Matt Cassel.

Now **** off.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:54 PM   #37
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So you agree? The 27 TD, 7 INT guy should've been cut after his Pro Bowl season?

Wow. I admit I didn't watch the games, but I think that'd be a first in NFL history...
Yes, he ****ing sucked ass, threw balls too high, took phantom sacks and completely crumbled in the playoff game.

Add to that fact that Jamaal Charles was off the hook that season AND the fact that they played the lowly NFC West, with the winner of that division ending up with a losing record at 7-9, and you'd clearly see that he needed to be replaced.

The bottom line is that EVERY position should be challenged each and every offseason. Baltimore won the Super Bowl, then cut Trent Dilfer for Elvis Grbac.

In an eleven year time span, San Diego traded for Stan Humphries, drafted Ryan Leaf, drafted Drew Brees and drafted Phillip Rivers, all in an effort to improve the QB situation.

The Chiefs haven't done dick in the draft since 1983.

Oh, and Cassel did and always has sucked ass.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:54 PM   #38
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The main issue I have with Scott (besides the 60M to Matt) is not retaining Orton, bringing in legitimate competition via the draft this year, the year before, and the year before that, and continuing to stick with him despite the fact Cassel was the main contributor in our team's lack of success.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:54 PM   #39
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Dude....the only thing he's shitting is his pants.




I'm the dumb one, not the guy saying cut him after a 27 TD, 7 INT season? You thought you KNEW after that season that there was no room for growth? He couldn't turn into a very good QB? He was just a pathetic POS useless turd of a QB? That was CERTAIN after a 27-7 season?

Your crystal ball must be really clear. You should play the lottery or something.
yes, i did now...and said so every god damn day at the top of my ****ing lungs

it was obvious before then...it was obvious from the beginning

but thanks for showing up and sucking cassel's dick on stage for us all...we've had quite enough of clueless pats fans trying to 'edumacate us'...

jesus **** this isn't happening
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:55 PM   #40
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So you agree? The 27 TD, 7 INT guy should've been cut after his Pro Bowl season?

Wow. I admit I didn't watch the games, but I think that'd be a first in NFL history...

Then stop talking. You have no idea what you are talking about. I'm glad the Pats fan knows more about the Chiefs than we do.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:55 PM   #41
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so, you admit to not knowing what the **** you're talking about...but you're here to lecture us anyways?
No, I'm asking a question. And you're having some kind of epileptic seizure. Calm down.

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have you lived and died with every single snap of Cassel's for 3 and half years?

because if not, spare us your bullshit...
I'm not even ARGUING for anything, I'm wondering if there was some better option out there I didn't know about. Obviously not so much. Basically Pioli should've gone with Orton this year. That would've been a better move. At least keep him on the freaking roster in case Cassel becomes an epic failure, or gets hurt, both of which have happened.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:56 PM   #43
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He should've been CUT after a season where he had 27 TDs and 7 INTs?
Anyone suggesting that is a loony.

After 2011, competition should have brought in, though.

None was. Zero effort to fix what was obviously a position of weakness.

A terrible failure of general management.

Of course Pioli started it all when he gave Cassel 60 million for 0 reasons.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:56 PM   #44
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:56 PM   #45
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It has been discussed around here already. 2010 was the year Weis was the OC. He really did a good job of masking Cassel's deficiencies. We still ran alot on obvious passing downs in 2010. We also had a very weak schedule which allowed Cassel to have few decent games against some really shitty teams.
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