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Old 10-09-2012, 04:36 PM  
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So Cassel is clearly the wrong guy, but what should Pioli have done?

So with my finely tuned senses and amazing powers of perception, I have detected some small modicum of dislike for Mr. Cassel, and for Mr. Pioli as well. I realize that the hatred of Pioli is for more reasons than going with Cassel, but it seems to me that not only is the Cassel deal a big part of why people hate him, but a part of why the Chiefs are losing so much, which also leads to hating the GM who built the team.

Putting aside the keep Orton option, which I'd agree the Chiefs should have done, what does ChiefsPlanet say Pioli should have done with the QB position? Clearly Sanchez is NOT an answer either, so Pioli made the right move in not spending a high 1st round pick on him. I'm also not aware of any Drew Brees to Miami level screw ups in terms of QB options that were ignored.

So what realistic move should Pioli have made, but didn't, at the QB position that pisses everybody off so much?

Heck, someone on here (GoChiefs) had a link on a post I saw explaining why Pioli should be fired, and the discussion of all the options he had other than Cassel were really pretty pathetic.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:57 PM   #46
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Some posts from Dane. Remember, he WATCHED the games and didn't just look at stats

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You know, I'm not so sure about that. I think he has a very good chance of being not only a Franchise guy but a Top Five guy as well.

He's improved exponentially this year. It's really only his third year of playing football since high school. He's not only improved on the field by leaps and bounds, but he continues to impress as THE LEADER of this football team.

I never expected such a turnaround from last season and at this point in time, I don't think he's even close to his ceiling.

The guy is really ****ing impressive and I'm more excited about the quarterback of the Kansas City Chiefs since Len Dawson was winning championships.

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I think that over the past few weeks, Cassel is the main reason why the Chiefs are winning games.

Sure, the running game is excellent but he's making players out of guys like Verran Tucker and a washed up Chris Chambers. He's been hitting Bowe and Moeaki with consistency and they're usually at fault when the pass is incomplete. The INT today was in no way Cassel's fault.

It's painfully obvious that Brodie Croyle has no place on this football team. The Chiefs would have probably lost against San Diego last week with Cassel, but that was an entirely different looking football team than the one we saw today.

This team clearly respects Cassel and they play at a higher level when he's under center.

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Whatever.

If the Chiefs receivers were the strength of this football team (instead of a glaring weakness), Cassel's numbers would be MUCH higher.

And that's from only 1 thread.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:57 PM   #47
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No, I'm asking a question. And you're having some kind of epileptic seizure. Calm down.



I'm not even ARGUING for anything, I'm wondering if there was some better option out there I didn't know about. Obviously not so much. Basically Pioli should've gone with Orton this year. That would've been a better move. At least keep him on the freaking roster in case Cassel becomes an epic failure, or gets hurt, both of which have happened.
well, gee..thanks for showing up and 'wondering'

we're all smarter for it...cassel is like brees and sanchez didn't walk into your stadium and **** your women...

any other subjects you know nothing about but want to kick around while you are here just 'wondering?'
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:57 PM   #48
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You can't sit here and say those quarterbacks wouldn't have turned out differently on a different team.
Sanchez has limited talent around him, and obviously isn't good enough to elevate anybody above what they otherwise are. I think he's probably pretty equal to Cassel, actually. In a perfect environment, when they don't have most of the pressure, they won't suck, but if all else isn't great, then they sink to the level of their teammates.

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And besides, Kyle Orton is obviously superior to Matt Cassel.
Agreed.

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Now **** off.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:58 PM   #49
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well, gee..thanks for showing up and 'wondering'

we're all smarter for it...cassel is like brees and sanchez didn't walk into your stadium and **** your women...

any other subjects you know nothing about but want to kick around while you are here just 'wondering?'

Just one. Why are you such an asshole?
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:58 PM   #50
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He correctly assessed, and rejected, Sanchez, which appears to have been the right move.
Again: You cannot say Sanchez would have performed or developed the same on another team.

Certainly a more talented team at this point, for sure.

NY has no receivers or running game.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:59 PM   #51
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I can't wait until Brady's career ends and this "Patriot Way" bullshit is exposed as the biggest scam in NFL history.

All dynasties come to an end sooner or later.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:59 PM   #52
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I think he's probably pretty equal to Cassel, actually.
Simply by virtue of the fact that he didn't completely shit his pants in multiple playoff wins elevates him above Cassel.

Quite frankly, I think Sanchez would be a mother****ing stud throwing Dwayne Bowe and Steve Breaston with Jamaal Charles burning up the yards on the ground.

Shit, he might even elevate Jon Baldwin away from superbust status.
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Old 10-09-2012, 05:00 PM   #54
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And that's from only 1 thread.
Damn...

If that were me after reading my quotes I'd probably develop some sort of chronic diarrhea.

27 tds. in this day of passing offenses is not that great, in fact it is mediocre. Qb's should be putting up a minimum of 25 td's with the way the rules are right now, any less and they are under performing the position.
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Just one. Why are you such an asshole?
you actually think - having admitted to not watching any games - that there is something about matt cassel you can tell us that we don't already know? haven't discussed 1000000000 different ways?

you think this stupid 'what was pioli supposed to do derp?' nonsense hasn't been asked and answered about 5643456433 times?

what do you think we do here all day, exactly?
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Again: You cannot say Sanchez would have performed or developed the same on another team.

Certainly a more talented team at this point, for sure.

NY has no receivers or running game.

So Pioli has built a better team (outside of the QB position) than the Jets the last few years? Jets have VERY clearly declined the last 2-3 years. Tannenbaum/Ryan could also be in trouble. Of course, they're having really bad luck with injuries as well (Revis and Holmes, obviously).
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you actually think - having admitted to not watching any games - that there is something about matt cassel you can tell us that we don't already know? haven't discussed 1000000000 different ways?

you think this stupid 'what was pioli supposed to do derp?' nonsense hasn't been asked and answered about 5643456433 times?

what do you think we do here all day, exactly?

Insult other posters for discussing Chiefs stuff, of course...
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Simply by virtue of the fact that he didn't completely shit his pants in multiple playoff wins elevates him above Cassel.

Quite frankly, I think Sanchez would be a mother****ing stud throwing Dwayne Bowe and Steve Breaston with Jamaal Charles burning up the yards on the ground.

Shit, he might even elevate Jon Baldwin away from superbust status.

Then you haven't watched enough of Sanchez.
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Drafted Andy Dalton
Would have been an amazing pick by Pioli, and would have showed incredible foresight.

And he'd have come cheap.
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