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Old 10-09-2012, 04:36 PM  
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So Cassel is clearly the wrong guy, but what should Pioli have done?

So with my finely tuned senses and amazing powers of perception, I have detected some small modicum of dislike for Mr. Cassel, and for Mr. Pioli as well. I realize that the hatred of Pioli is for more reasons than going with Cassel, but it seems to me that not only is the Cassel deal a big part of why people hate him, but a part of why the Chiefs are losing so much, which also leads to hating the GM who built the team.

Putting aside the keep Orton option, which I'd agree the Chiefs should have done, what does ChiefsPlanet say Pioli should have done with the QB position? Clearly Sanchez is NOT an answer either, so Pioli made the right move in not spending a high 1st round pick on him. I'm also not aware of any Drew Brees to Miami level screw ups in terms of QB options that were ignored.

So what realistic move should Pioli have made, but didn't, at the QB position that pisses everybody off so much?

Heck, someone on here (GoChiefs) had a link on a post I saw explaining why Pioli should be fired, and the discussion of all the options he had other than Cassel were really pretty pathetic.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:29 PM   #136
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... because of the contract he couldn't admit to the mistake. As long as he thought there was a chance Cassel could work out, he was going to stick with it.
Eh. There are plenty who would have realized their mistake and ate the cap hit.

Honestly, it wasn't even as bad a hit as T-jack has been IIRC.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:30 PM   #137
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And? Luck is 5 games into his.

WTF does Luck have anything to do with this convo?
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:30 PM   #138
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"So Cassel is clearly the wrong guy, but what should Pioli have done?"

Try. Simple as that.

The crime is not picking the right guy. It's the unwillingness to take a chance to find out.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:31 PM   #139
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And? Luck is 5 games into his.

Dalton is a game manager who is slightly better than Cassel.
A game mananger who:

Leads the NFL in completions over 40 yards.

Is 12th in passing yards.

Is third in yards per attempt.

Is 7th in TD percentage.



You're a tard.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:32 PM   #140
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WTF does Luck have anything to do with this convo?
He's a rookie that's already putting his team onto his shoulders?
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:33 PM   #141
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He's a rookie that's already putting his team onto his shoulders?
Kinda like Dalton did last year with a team as equally bad (worse IMO as Cincy still doesn't have anyone who rushes the passer as well as Freeney/Mathis and I'm a huge Carlos Dunlap enthusiast)
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:34 PM   #142
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Dalton is a game manager who is slightly better than Cassel.
You are an idiot if you truly believe that.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:34 PM   #143
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Additionally, Dalton played/plays in a much tougher division than Luck will ever play in during his lifetime, IMO.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:34 PM   #144
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Pioli had plenty of options going into the season and let each one pass by. First off he said that there would be competition brought in and it was Brady Quinn, he of the career 3-9 record and 53% completions. He had the option to go after Manning and made a money offer before trying to sell him on the personnel here. He had the option to sign Flynn and never really considered that. Not sure it was a real option given that Flynn is probably a system QB. He had the option to keep Orton as competition and let that slide. He had options in the draft that he let pass by to get a project T/G tweener. I don't fault him for not going after RG3 as the price was much too high. Don't really fault him for not going after an unproved Tannehill.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:36 PM   #145
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I appreciate the Chiefs swinging for Cassel, even if they missed.

I would have been okay if the Chiefs kept swinging but kept missing.

It is unacceptable to be oblivious for 4 years that you missed on Cassel, and not even TRY to take a swing at a guy you believe could compete for a starting job.
They didn't swing for Cassel. Pioli bunted and then instead of evaluating for the franchise year, he decided to extend a guy who had little to no track record.

That's ****ing blind bullshit. That's not swinging.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:36 PM   #146
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Kinda like Dalton did last year with a team as equally bad (worse IMO as Cincy still doesn't have anyone who rushes the passer as well as Freeney/Mathis and I'm a huge Carlos Dunlap enthusiast)


Cincinnati was bad? They had one of the best D's in the league, idiot. Their D made those games against Pitt, Baltimore, and Texans close.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:40 PM   #147
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Cincinnati was bad? They had one of the best D's in the league, idiot. Their D made those games against Pitt, Baltimore, and Texans close.
So it was their D that put up 17, 24, 19, and 16 points against 3 playoff teams that have elite Ds?

Additionally, the first part of your statement is way off base. I'm a Mike Zimmer supporter. You'd know that if you read any of the HC threads for next year.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:45 PM   #148
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So it was their D that put up 17, 24, 19, and 16 points against 3 playoff teams that have elite Ds?

Additionally, the first part of your statement is way off base. I'm a Mike Zimmer supporter. You'd know that if you read any of the HC threads for next year.
No, moron. It was their D that kept the other team from scoring 50 points. If you actually watched any Bengals games last year you would have seen how Dalton was doing everything possible to make it a blowout for the other team.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:47 PM   #149
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:48 PM   #150
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No, moron. It was their D that kept the other team from scoring 50 points. If you actually watched any Bengals games last year you would have seen how Dalton was doing everything possible to make it a blowout for the other team.


You're right.

Cincy's D carried that team like the Ravens did with Dilfer, that is how bad a rookie who wet to the playoffs in a division featuring the Ravens and Steelers was.


JFC. You realize Matt Cassel would be lucky to win a single division game playing for the Bengals.

You know that right?
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