Chiefs So Cassel is clearly the wrong guy, but what should ***** have done? - Page 12

Amnorix · 10-09-2012, 04:36 PM

So with my finely tuned senses and amazing powers of perception, I have detected some small modicum of dislike for Mr. Cassel, and for Mr. ***** as well. I realize that the hatred of ***** is for more reasons than going with Cassel, but it seems to me that not only is the Cassel deal a big part of why people hate him, but a part of why the Chiefs are losing so much, which also leads to hating the GM who built the team.

Putting aside the keep Orton option, which I'd agree the Chiefs should have done, what does ChiefsPlanet say ***** should have done with the QB position? Clearly Sanchez is NOT an answer either, so ***** made the right move in not spending a high 1st round pick on him. I'm also not aware of any Drew Brees to Miami level screw ups in terms of QB options that were ignored.

So what realistic move should ***** have made, but didn't, at the QB position that pisses everybody off so much?

Heck, someone on here (GoChiefs) had a link on a post I saw explaining why ***** should be fired, and the discussion of all the options he had other than Cassel were really pretty pathetic.

Valiant · 10-09-2012, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

So with my finely tuned senses and amazing powers of perception, I have detected some small modicum of dislike for Mr. Cassel, and for Mr. ***** as well. I realize that the hatred of ***** is for more reasons than going with Cassel, but it seems to me that not only is the Cassel deal a big part of why people hate him, but a part of why the Chiefs are losing so much, which also leads to hating the GM who built the team.

Putting aside the keep Orton option, which I'd agree the Chiefs should have done, what does ChiefsPlanet say ***** should have done with the QB position? Clearly Sanchez is NOT an answer either, so ***** made the right move in not spending a high 1st round pick on him. I'm also not aware of any Drew Brees to Miami level screw ups in terms of QB options that were ignored.

So what realistic move should ***** have made, but didn't, at the QB position that pisses everybody off so much?

Heck, someone on here (GoChiefs) had a link on a post I saw explaining why ***** should be fired, and the discussion of all the options he had other than Cassel were really pretty pathetic.

Are you ****ing serious??

1st Cassel should of never been given the contract..

We had his ass for one year on the franchise, he played like shit.. Should of cut base with him the first year.. They had '10,'11 and '12 to draft a QB in the 1st round..

Dave Lane · 10-09-2012, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

really, no one?

am i that old....

Pretty obscure but I vaguely remember.

Chief_For_Life58 · 10-09-2012, 07:43 PM

if he was smart he woulda drafted josh freeman..hometown kid...shit ton of potential...superbowl

Chief_For_Life58 · 10-09-2012, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

Are you ****ing serious??

1st Cassel should of never been given the contract..

We had his ass for one year on the franchise, he played like shit.. Should of cut base with him the first year.. They had '10,'11 and '12 to draft a QB in the 1st round..

Exactly why Egoli needs to get the fcuk outta kc already

mnchiefsguy · 10-09-2012, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

So with my finely tuned senses and amazing powers of perception, I have detected some small modicum of dislike for Mr. Cassel, and for Mr. ***** as well. I realize that the hatred of ***** is for more reasons than going with Cassel, but it seems to me that not only is the Cassel deal a big part of why people hate him, but a part of why the Chiefs are losing so much, which also leads to hating the GM who built the team.

Putting aside the keep Orton option, which I'd agree the Chiefs should have done, what does ChiefsPlanet say ***** should have done with the QB position? Clearly Sanchez is NOT an answer either, so ***** made the right move in not spending a high 1st round pick on him. I'm also not aware of any Drew Brees to Miami level screw ups in terms of QB options that were ignored.

So what realistic move should ***** have made, but didn't, at the QB position that pisses everybody off so much?

Heck, someone on here (GoChiefs) had a link on a post I saw explaining why ***** should be fired, and the discussion of all the options he had other than Cassel were really pretty pathetic.

Have not read the entire thread yet, but off of the top of my head, ***** could have done one of the following this offseason: (in no particular order or priority, any one of them would have been better than Cassel)

1. Obligatory "Sign Peyton Manning" suggestion.
2. Take Brandon Wheedon in second round.
3. Take Russell Wilson in the third round.
4. Trade up for Luck, RGIII, or Tannehill.
5. Sign Matt Flynn as a Free Agent.

That is just off of the top of my head. Option 1 may or may not have been tried, Option 4 was probably not going to happen with either Luck or RGIII, but was certainly possible for Tannehill. The Chiefs were in prime position to do options 2,3, or 5 without having to give up draft picks.

Amnorix · 10-09-2012, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Since that hit, your entire franchise has stayed down, bitch.

No more Super Bowls for Belichick and his fraudulent ways.

Weird I thought we were a minute away from winning the SB the year before Brady got hurt and had the same result last year so your post makes no sense.

Amnorix · 10-09-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

If you go back and read the posts, many of us were hoping he was gone. We were hoping he would be traded to McDaniels in Denver since he actually wanted him also.

Those stats were bullshit, and many of us knew it from watching the games. A real QB, with that schedule and Jamaal Charles would have rewritten record books.

That McD also wanted him suggests that the entire organization overrated him after his 2008 season, not just *****.

Amnorix · 10-09-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

"So Cassel is clearly the wrong guy, but what should ***** have done?"

Try. Simple as that.

The crime is not picking the right guy. It's the unwillingness to take a chance to find out.

An intelligent post instead of spit-flying rants. Thanks.

Sorter · 10-09-2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

That McD also wanted him suggests one other person overrated him after his 2008 season, not just *****.

Fixed

Branden Albert's Huge Balls · 10-09-2012, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Weird I thought we were a minute away from winning the SB the year before Brady got hurt and had the same result last year so your post makes no sense.

No more Super Bowls for you.

Suck it.

HOF QB goes 0-fer because his fraud head coach can't support him with enough talent.

Shitty legacy to leave.

Amnorix · 10-09-2012, 08:15 PM

Sounds like many (the rational ones anyway) fault ***** more for not having a backup plan for a guy who obviously didn't have much of a track record, and most importantly sticking with the guy when the performance was unacceptable after a few years. In other words not owning up to it being a mistake when the evidence became pretty clear.

Which is all I was really asking. Those who thought I was trying to defend ***** have it wrong. First, if I try I'm just going to piss everyone off (see this thread), second, Pili will succeed or fail on his own. I'm not here to convince anybody of anything. I thought getting Cassel wasn't that bad a move in 2009 given the other options available at the time, but it sounds like the real crime in the eyes of most was sticking to a failed plan.

Bump · 10-09-2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I don't need to feel a fuzzy pillow of other posters agreement.

Dalton is 1-8 against .500+ teams.

so, he's in his 2nd year and he's been pretty damn impressive. I'd feel pretty good about our QB situation if we were smart enough to draft him.

Amnorix · 10-09-2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

No more Super Bowls for you.

Suck it.

HOF QB goes 0-fer because his fraud head coach can't support him with enough talent.

Shitty legacy to leave.

???

You're starting to lose your ability to form rational thoughts. Oh and your bitterness is showing...

Sorter · 10-09-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump

so, he's in his 2nd year and he's been pretty damn impressive. I'd feel pretty good about our QB situation if we were smart enough to draft him.

Everyone but JD would on this board IMO.

Branden Albert's Huge Balls · 10-09-2012, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

???

You're starting to lose your ability to form rational thoughts. Oh and your bitterness is showing...

Nothing like supporting a HOF QB with Deion ****ing Branch there, huh?

Go Cardinals.

10-09-2012, 04:36 PM
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $196137	So Cassel is clearly the wrong guy, but what should * have done? So with my finely tuned senses and amazing powers of perception, I have detected some small modicum of dislike for Mr. Cassel, and for Mr. *** as well. I realize that the hatred of * is for more reasons than going with Cassel, but it seems to me that not only is the Cassel deal a big part of why people hate him, but a part of why the Chiefs are losing so much, which also leads to hating the GM who built the team. Putting aside the keep Orton option, which I'd agree the Chiefs should have done, what does ChiefsPlanet say * should have done with the QB position? Clearly Sanchez is NOT an answer either, so * made the right move in not spending a high 1st round pick on him. I'm also not aware of any Drew Brees to Miami level screw ups in terms of QB options that were ignored. So what realistic move should * have made, but didn't, at the QB position that pisses everybody off so much? Heck, someone on here (GoChiefs) had a link on a post I saw explaining why *** should be fired, and the discussion of all the options he had other than Cassel were really pretty pathetic.
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10-09-2012, 08:15 PM	#176
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $196137	Sounds like many (the rational ones anyway) fault *** more for not having a backup plan for a guy who obviously didn't have much of a track record, and most importantly sticking with the guy when the performance was unacceptable after a few years. In other words not owning up to it being a mistake when the evidence became pretty clear. Which is all I was really asking. Those who thought I was trying to defend *** have it wrong. First, if I try I'm just going to piss everyone off (see this thread), second, Pili will succeed or fail on his own. I'm not here to convince anybody of anything. I thought getting Cassel wasn't that bad a move in 2009 given the other options available at the time, but it sounds like the real crime in the eyes of most was sticking to a failed plan. __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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