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Old 10-09-2012, 04:36 PM  
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So Cassel is clearly the wrong guy, but what should Pioli have done?

So with my finely tuned senses and amazing powers of perception, I have detected some small modicum of dislike for Mr. Cassel, and for Mr. Pioli as well. I realize that the hatred of Pioli is for more reasons than going with Cassel, but it seems to me that not only is the Cassel deal a big part of why people hate him, but a part of why the Chiefs are losing so much, which also leads to hating the GM who built the team.

Putting aside the keep Orton option, which I'd agree the Chiefs should have done, what does ChiefsPlanet say Pioli should have done with the QB position? Clearly Sanchez is NOT an answer either, so Pioli made the right move in not spending a high 1st round pick on him. I'm also not aware of any Drew Brees to Miami level screw ups in terms of QB options that were ignored.

So what realistic move should Pioli have made, but didn't, at the QB position that pisses everybody off so much?

Heck, someone on here (GoChiefs) had a link on a post I saw explaining why Pioli should be fired, and the discussion of all the options he had other than Cassel were really pretty pathetic.
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:22 PM   #166
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So with my finely tuned senses and amazing powers of perception, I have detected some small modicum of dislike for Mr. Cassel, and for Mr. Pioli as well. I realize that the hatred of Pioli is for more reasons than going with Cassel, but it seems to me that not only is the Cassel deal a big part of why people hate him, but a part of why the Chiefs are losing so much, which also leads to hating the GM who built the team.

Putting aside the keep Orton option, which I'd agree the Chiefs should have done, what does ChiefsPlanet say Pioli should have done with the QB position? Clearly Sanchez is NOT an answer either, so Pioli made the right move in not spending a high 1st round pick on him. I'm also not aware of any Drew Brees to Miami level screw ups in terms of QB options that were ignored.

So what realistic move should Pioli have made, but didn't, at the QB position that pisses everybody off so much?

Heck, someone on here (GoChiefs) had a link on a post I saw explaining why Pioli should be fired, and the discussion of all the options he had other than Cassel were really pretty pathetic.
Are you ****ing serious??

1st Cassel should of never been given the contract..

We had his ass for one year on the franchise, he played like shit.. Should of cut base with him the first year.. They had '10,'11 and '12 to draft a QB in the 1st round..
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:42 PM   #167
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:43 PM   #168
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if he was smart he woulda drafted josh freeman..hometown kid...shit ton of potential...superbowl
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:44 PM   #169
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Are you ****ing serious??

1st Cassel should of never been given the contract..

We had his ass for one year on the franchise, he played like shit.. Should of cut base with him the first year.. They had '10,'11 and '12 to draft a QB in the 1st round..
Exactly why Egoli needs to get the fcuk outta kc already
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:51 PM   #170
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So with my finely tuned senses and amazing powers of perception, I have detected some small modicum of dislike for Mr. Cassel, and for Mr. Pioli as well. I realize that the hatred of Pioli is for more reasons than going with Cassel, but it seems to me that not only is the Cassel deal a big part of why people hate him, but a part of why the Chiefs are losing so much, which also leads to hating the GM who built the team.

Putting aside the keep Orton option, which I'd agree the Chiefs should have done, what does ChiefsPlanet say Pioli should have done with the QB position? Clearly Sanchez is NOT an answer either, so Pioli made the right move in not spending a high 1st round pick on him. I'm also not aware of any Drew Brees to Miami level screw ups in terms of QB options that were ignored.

So what realistic move should Pioli have made, but didn't, at the QB position that pisses everybody off so much?

Heck, someone on here (GoChiefs) had a link on a post I saw explaining why Pioli should be fired, and the discussion of all the options he had other than Cassel were really pretty pathetic.
Have not read the entire thread yet, but off of the top of my head, Pioli could have done one of the following this offseason: (in no particular order or priority, any one of them would have been better than Cassel)

1. Obligatory "Sign Peyton Manning" suggestion.
2. Take Brandon Wheedon in second round.
3. Take Russell Wilson in the third round.
4. Trade up for Luck, RGIII, or Tannehill.
5. Sign Matt Flynn as a Free Agent.

That is just off of the top of my head. Option 1 may or may not have been tried, Option 4 was probably not going to happen with either Luck or RGIII, but was certainly possible for Tannehill. The Chiefs were in prime position to do options 2,3, or 5 without having to give up draft picks.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:02 PM   #171
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Since that hit, your entire franchise has stayed down, bitch.

No more Super Bowls for Belichick and his fraudulent ways.
Weird I thought we were a minute away from winning the SB the year before Brady got hurt and had the same result last year so your post makes no sense.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:04 PM   #172
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If you go back and read the posts, many of us were hoping he was gone. We were hoping he would be traded to McDaniels in Denver since he actually wanted him also.

Those stats were bullshit, and many of us knew it from watching the games. A real QB, with that schedule and Jamaal Charles would have rewritten record books.
That McD also wanted him suggests that the entire organization overrated him after his 2008 season, not just Pioli.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:07 PM   #173
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"So Cassel is clearly the wrong guy, but what should Pioli have done?"

Try. Simple as that.

The crime is not picking the right guy. It's the unwillingness to take a chance to find out.

An intelligent post instead of spit-flying rants. Thanks.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:09 PM   #174
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That McD also wanted him suggests one other person overrated him after his 2008 season, not just Pioli.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:10 PM   #175
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Weird I thought we were a minute away from winning the SB the year before Brady got hurt and had the same result last year so your post makes no sense.
No more Super Bowls for you.

Suck it.

HOF QB goes 0-fer because his fraud head coach can't support him with enough talent.

Shitty legacy to leave.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:15 PM   #176
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Sounds like many (the rational ones anyway) fault Pioli more for not having a backup plan for a guy who obviously didn't have much of a track record, and most importantly sticking with the guy when the performance was unacceptable after a few years. In other words not owning up to it being a mistake when the evidence became pretty clear.

Which is all I was really asking. Those who thought I was trying to defend Pioli have it wrong. First, if I try I'm just going to piss everyone off (see this thread), second, Pili will succeed or fail on his own. I'm not here to convince anybody of anything. I thought getting Cassel wasn't that bad a move in 2009 given the other options available at the time, but it sounds like the real crime in the eyes of most was sticking to a failed plan.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:16 PM   #177
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I don't need to feel a fuzzy pillow of other posters agreement.

Dalton is 1-8 against .500+ teams.
so, he's in his 2nd year and he's been pretty damn impressive. I'd feel pretty good about our QB situation if we were smart enough to draft him.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:16 PM   #178
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No more Super Bowls for you.

Suck it.

HOF QB goes 0-fer because his fraud head coach can't support him with enough talent.

Shitty legacy to leave.
???

You're starting to lose your ability to form rational thoughts. Oh and your bitterness is showing...
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so, he's in his 2nd year and he's been pretty damn impressive. I'd feel pretty good about our QB situation if we were smart enough to draft him.
Everyone but JD would on this board IMO.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:21 PM   #180
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???

You're starting to lose your ability to form rational thoughts. Oh and your bitterness is showing...
Nothing like supporting a HOF QB with Deion ****ing Branch there, huh?

Go Cardinals.
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