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Old 10-05-2012, 11:25 AM  
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Debate Bounce

For those of you who closely follow the polls what kind of bounce did Romney get from the debate? What does that do to his chances of winning the general election?
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:14 AM   #76
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Really? Obama was up by 10 last month by Pew Research
When they oversampled Dems by 10.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:19 AM   #77
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Romney up in Ohio +1 (ARG), up in Colorado +4 (ARG), down only 2-3 in Pennsylvania (Susquehanna and Siena), tied in Nevada (Rasmussen).

Combined with the other findings we're witnessing the epic campaign collapse all the Dems predicted a couple weeks ago -- only it is Obama.

I always said the first debate would decide this thing, but I do think Romney and Ryan have to turn in two more A+ performances to seal the deal. I say this because the media will be gnashing their teeth trying to change the "Romney has the momentum" narrative. I doubt the third debate will matter much.

It is funny watching all of the Obama campaign's efforts to paint Romney as a liar and try to mock him with Big Bird references fall flat.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:22 AM   #78
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BTW, the internals are deadly for Obama. In Ohio, Romney has a 20-point lead among independents. Also in all the ARG polls Romney has clearly "brought home" GOP voters with less than 5% choosing Obama (85%-90% is normal, but his 92%-94% levels of partisan support are extremely high).
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:24 AM   #79
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I'm on record many times here stating I'm not an Obama supporter.
You say Romney doesn't have any ideas and you can't understand why anyone would support him.

You get a list of his ideas and you can't understand why anyone would support him.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:27 AM   #80
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I just have a bad feeling that it's going to take a landslide in Romney's favor to get Obama out. It needs to be crystal clear who the winner is so that nothing can be fudged.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:30 AM   #81
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I just have a bad feeling that it's going to take a landslide in Romney's favor to get Obama out. It needs to be crystal clear who the winner is so that nothing can be fudged.
There's a long way to go, but I get the sense that the Obama campaign's strategy of making Romney unacceptable only worked to the point that he proved he wasn't the man that Obama said he was.

I don't know how Obama gets that narrative going again absent some big event, which is always possible!

Imagine if they had held the 47% video until the day after the debate. Really stupid of Mother Jones to leak it when they did...
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:37 AM   #82
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I just have a bad feeling that it's going to take a landslide in Romney's favor to get Obama out. It needs to be crystal clear who the winner is so that nothing can be fudged.
Well considering Obama starts with 55 electoral votes because of those Nuts and Fruits in California, it is gonna take a major turnout.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:38 AM   #83
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Imagine if they had held the 47% video until the day after the debate. Really stupid of Mother Jones to leak it when they did...
No kidding. Hopefully Romney took that one away from them last week.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:40 AM   #84
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Well considering Obama starts with 55 electoral votes because of those Nuts and Fruits in California, it is gonna take a major turnout.
Even $6 gas and a bankrupt home state can't turn those idiots towards the light.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:46 AM   #85
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Even $6 gas and a bankrupt home state can't turn those idiots towards the light.
I just don't get it... How in the Hell was Reagan ever Governor and the winner of that state both times in the elections?
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Old 10-09-2012, 11:29 AM   #86
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I'm on record many times here stating I'm not an Obama supporter.
Forgive me for characterizing your view. I amend my comment so it is directed at obama supporters only.
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I just don't get it... How in the Hell was Reagan ever Governor and the winner of that state both times in the elections?
A lot has changed since then, and not for the better. The demographics and policies of California are an ill omen and a flashing warning light for all of America to heed, learn from, and avoid.
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:55 PM   #88
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Romney now leads in the RCP average of polls. I think that is a first.

Since the debate:

Pew: +4
IBD: +2
Gallup: +2
Reuters: Tied
Rasmussen: Tied

Also new state polls showing him way ahead in NC, ahead in OH, ahead in CO, and within the margin of error in MI and PA.
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:12 AM   #89
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I just don't get it... How in the Hell was Reagan ever Governor and the winner of that state both times in the elections?
Rural California and Northern California tend to be decidedly conservative.

SF and SoCal have hijacked the state's politics.

What California needs isn't even a regime change, it's a goddamn military coup. Just put a dictator in charge for a couple of years, have him smack all these whiny idiots upside the head and get that place back on track.

I can't believe that a state with the advantages that California has can be so screwed up. The amount of out-state money that place sucks into it is staggering. The state literally does everything well (geographically speaking) and yet it's going under. They can grow anything, farm anything, product anything and everyone would kill to live there. Yet somehow, some way, the state is a train wreck.

And it's built on the back of wildly liberal politics.

But yeah - lets do that. Lets follow the lead of the people like Nancy Pelosi that have run that state into a goddamn mountain despite being given advantages that no other state in the union have.

I hate the electorate so very much...
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Rural California and Northern California tend to be decidedly conservative.

SF and SoCal have hijacked the state's politics.

What California needs isn't even a regime change, it's a goddamn military coup. Just put a dictator in charge for a couple of years, have him smack all these whiny idiots upside the head and get that place back on track.

I can't believe that a state with the advantages that California has can be so screwed up. The amount of out-state money that place sucks into it is staggering. The state literally does everything well (geographically speaking) and yet it's going under. They can grow anything, farm anything, product anything and everyone would kill to live there. Yet somehow, some way, the state is a train wreck.

And it's built on the back of wildly liberal politics.

But yeah - lets do that. Lets follow the lead of the people like Nancy Pelosi that have run that state into a goddamn mountain despite being given advantages that no other state in the union have.

I hate the electorate so very much...
Libs want to raise hell about forcing to show ID when they vote but no one can tell me there is not major voting fraud there with all the illegals.
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