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Old 10-05-2012, 12:25 PM  
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Debate Bounce

For those of you who closely follow the polls what kind of bounce did Romney get from the debate? What does that do to his chances of winning the general election?
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Old 10-10-2012, 11:57 AM   #91
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It is not just a bounce there is momentum for Romney. Team Obama is scrabling trying to stop the bleeding. It looks like the disciples are having trouble with their faith in their messiah.
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Old 10-10-2012, 11:59 AM   #92
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I think the polls have been skewed from the start...
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Old 10-10-2012, 01:48 PM   #93
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Sounds like Obama is going to be much more aggressive at the next debate:

President Barack Obama defended his debate performance last week by saying that he "was just too polite."

The president was asked about the debate on the Tom Joyner Morning Show earlier this morning, according to the Huffington Post.

"Well, two things. I mean, you know, the debate, I think it’s fair to say I was just too polite, because, you know, it’s hard to sometimes just keep on saying and what you’re saying isn’t true," Obama said in response to the question.

"It gets repetitive. But, you know, the good news is, is that’s just the first one. Governor Romney put forward a whole bunch of stuff that either involved him running away from positions that he had taken, or doubling down on things like Medicare vouchers that are going to hurt him long term."

He continued, "And, you know, I think it’s fair to say that we will see a little more activity at the next one."
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Old 10-10-2012, 01:56 PM   #94
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Sounds like Obama is going to be much more aggressive at the next debate:

President Barack Obama defended his debate performance last week by saying that he "was just too polite."

The president was asked about the debate on the Tom Joyner Morning Show earlier this morning, according to the Huffington Post.

"Well, two things. I mean, you know, the debate, I think it’s fair to say I was just too polite, because, you know, it’s hard to sometimes just keep on saying and what you’re saying isn’t true," Obama said in response to the question.

"It gets repetitive. But, you know, the good news is, is that’s just the first one. Governor Romney put forward a whole bunch of stuff that either involved him running away from positions that he had taken, or doubling down on things like Medicare vouchers that are going to hurt him long term."

He continued, "And, you know, I think it’s fair to say that we will see a little more activity at the next one."
This reminds me of when Turner Gill said he "saw something" on the films he watched, and winked as if he had it all under control shortly before losing by 50 again.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:10 PM   #95
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If he goes Angry Barack Man, that isn't going to help. His results suck, he is trading on personal like ability with his remaining supporters among people who aren't committed Democrats.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:13 PM   #96
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If he goes Angry Barack Man, that isn't going to help. His results suck, he is trading on personal like ability with his remaining supporters among people who aren't committed Democrats.
Yep, it's going to be fun to watch.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:26 PM   #97
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Rural California and Northern California tend to be decidedly conservative.

SF and SoCal have hijacked the state's politics.

What California needs isn't even a regime change, it's a goddamn military coup. Just put a dictator in charge for a couple of years, have him smack all these whiny idiots upside the head and get that place back on track.

I can't believe that a state with the advantages that California has can be so screwed up. The amount of out-state money that place sucks into it is staggering. The state literally does everything well (geographically speaking) and yet it's going under. They can grow anything, farm anything, product anything and everyone would kill to live there. Yet somehow, some way, the state is a train wreck.

And it's built on the back of wildly liberal politics.

But yeah - lets do that. Lets follow the lead of the people like Nancy Pelosi that have run that state into a goddamn mountain despite being given advantages that no other state in the union have.

I hate the electorate so very much...
This use to be Reagan country. Astonishing what liberalism can do.

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This is your state/California; This is your state on Liberalism/ any questions?
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:31 PM   #98
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A lot has changed since then, and not for the better. The demographics and policies of California are an ill omen and a flashing warning light for all of America to heed, learn from, and avoid.
This.

When Pete Wilson was governor, he supported Prop 187, which would make English the official language of the State of California.

That really pissed off the Mexican contingency, many who are mostly conservative.

Couple that with the the express lane that runs from Tijuana to San Diego, then branches out on the 8, the 15, the 10, the 405, and the 101, and well, the rest is history.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:35 PM   #99
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This.

When Pete Wilson was governor, he supported Prop 187, which would make English the official language of the State of California.

That really pissed off the Mexican contingency, many who are mostly conservative.

Couple that with the the express lane that runs from Tijuana to San Diego, then branches out on the 8, the 15, the 10, the 405, and the 101, and well, the rest is history.
Someone has no semblance of a clue re Prop 187.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:46 PM   #100
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Someone has no semblance of a clue re Prop 187.
I kind of forgot the details, but I remember the number. heh.

My bad. Thanks for correcting me.

Anyways, it pissed the Hispanic population off really bad in California.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:47 PM   #101
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Someone has no semblance of a clue re Prop 187.
California Proposition 187 was on the November 8, 1994 general election ballot in California as an initiated state statute, where it was approved. However, it has never been enforced.[1] The goal of Proposition 187 was to make illegal aliens ineligible for public benefits. It came in the middle of a deep recession in California and was popular partly because the fiscal estimate from the California Legislative Analyst's Office said that it would save the state about $200 million/year.[2]
Proposition 187's approval was the first time that any American state passed legislation related to immigration.[3]
The day after Proposition 187 was approved by the state's voters, several groups filed federal lawsuits against it, including the Mexican-American Legal Defense/Education Fund (MALDEF), the League of Latin American Citizens (LULAC) and the ACLU.
Three days after Proposition 187 was approved, on November 11, federal district court judge Matthew Byrne issued a temporary injunction against the state of California, forbidding the enforcement of Prop 187. Federal judge Marianna Pfaelzer then issued a permanent injunction, pending a trial. The state of California asked in 1997 for the case to be dismissed and the injunction dropped, on the grounds that federal immigration law had changed in the meantime. The federal court denied the request that the case be dismissed. The state of California never appealed that decision, so the permanent injunction stands, and the case has never proceeded to trial.[
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:51 PM   #102
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We tried to stop it, but, as those of you who are opposed to health care should know, when you win at the ballot box, the courts will overturn in favor of the statists agenda. They wanted our tax paid services to go to those who had not paid into the system, and therefore they got it, voter be damned.

They want gay marriage, and they will have it, voter be damned.

They want universal health care, with the federal government regulating every facet of your eating habits and what kind of health care you may receive, they will have it, voter be damned.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:52 PM   #103
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This is why many of us say "We want our country back".

We feel as if we already live in a foreign country.

Coming to a neighborhood near you soon.
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Old 10-10-2012, 06:49 PM   #104
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This reminds me of when Turner Gill said he "saw something" on the films he watched, and winked as if he had it all under control shortly before losing by 50 again.
Well, you know, Turner Gill, you know, was an idiot, you know. Thankfully, you know, he is no longer, you know, the coach at KU.


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If he goes Angry Barack Man, that isn't going to help. His results suck, he is trading on personal like ability with his remaining supporters among people who aren't committed Democrats.
You think he and his staff don't know he cant go all anger and venom?
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