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With Sunday start for Chiefs, Quinn could reclaim his career. (KC Star)

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star








By all rights, it shouldn’t be this way for Brady Quinn. He’s 27 and in his sixth NFL season, so as a former first-round draft pick he should not only have a team to call his own but be comfortably rooted as its starting quarterback.
It hasn’t worked that way for Quinn. But he will get a chance, perhaps a last chance, to resurrect his long-stalled career on Sunday when he will make his first start in almost three years, this one for the Chiefs against the Buccaneers in Tampa.
Quarterback Matt Cassel has not been medically cleared to participate and did not practice Wednesday. Coach Romeo Crennel didn’t rule Cassel out of Sunday’s game, but given that the NFL demands caution with players who have suffered a concussion, as Cassel did last week, that appears to be a formality.
So the Chiefs will go with Quinn, who played for a handful of snaps in relief of the injured Cassel toward the end of last week’s game against Baltimore.
“This is his opportunity to reclaim his career,” said Shawn Zobel, who runs a draft website at DraftHeadquarters.com. Zobel thought enough of Quinn when he came out of Notre Dame in 2007 that he could have been the overall No. 1 pick.
“He’s only 27. So he’s got that going for him. When you think about it from that perspective, he’s younger than (Cleveland rookie quarterback) Brandon Weeden.”
Cassel was at the practice facility Wednesday, but only briefly. He did not attend practice.
“He came into the building today,” Crennel said. “He was not here long. Concussions, they want you to rest, take your time with it.
“He’s been getting a series of tests as it relates to the concussion and he’s been seeing the doctors. I think he’s getting better but you know the league is very serious and cautious about concussions and how about how to handle them so we have to follow procedures on that as we go forward.”
So the Chiefs will go with Quinn on Sunday. While that prospect doesn’t sound exciting to at least some NFL teams — in the past three years, Quinn has been discarded by the Browns, couldn’t get off the bench for the Broncos and not good enough to replace a struggling Cassel for the Chiefs — at one time it would have been.
He was a first-round pick in 2007 of the Browns, then coached by Crennel. He spent two seasons with Cleveland under Crennel, making only three starts, and one year after Crennel was fired, making nine starts.
He was then traded to Denver, where he spent two years buried on the bench behind Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow. He joined the Chiefs as a free agent this year. That’s hardly the career predicted for Quinn when he left Notre Dame.
“I know when I went into Notre Dame, they’d had a couple .500 seasons, or right about that, and I know that we went to two BCS games in the first two years that I was at Notre Dame and one of the main reasons was Brady Quinn,” said Kansas’ Charlie Weis, Quinn’s coach at the end of his Irish career. “And when he left, I told the people, the fans and everyone that you’re really going to miss this kid when he’s gone. And we went 3-9 the next year. So there’s a lot to say for what that kid did for Notre Dame when I was there. We won a lot of football games and he carried the torch. He was clearly the leader.”
Sunday’s game gives Quinn a chance to reestablish his career. Cassel left the lineup because of injury, but was playing so poorly that the Chiefs couldn’t afford to yank Quinn if he plays well during his trial as the starter.
But Quinn wouldn’t acknowledge that on Wednesday.
“There is no bigger picture,” he said. “Tampa is a good team. We’ve got a big challenge ahead of us. There’s no need for me or anyone else to be looking further than this week or even tomorrow’s preparation.”
Yet Quinn also admitted his emotions stirred when he replaced Cassel last week, the first time he’s played in the regular season since December 2009. He said he expected them to do so on Sunday as well.
Since he was Cleveland’s coach when Quinn was drafted, it’s reasonable to believe the quarterback is a favorite of Crennel’s. He didn’t sound on Wednesday as if he had a lot of confidence in Quinn.
“I hope the fact that he understands the offense and understands the system (means) he will be able to step in and be productive,” Crennel said. “He’s got some height, he’s got experience, he can throw the ball down the field, he can throw it intermediate. He has a good command of the offense. He knows what’s expected. He knows the calls and can get us into plays, out of plays.
“Now he has to go execute.” (Unlike CAssel?)

Quinn didn’t play at all as a rookie and started only three games the next season. He lost the rest of that season with a finger injury.
“He was a good talent coming out,” Crennel said. “There’s no doubt about it. He was a productive quarterback and had command of the offense that he ran up at Notre Dame and the weapons he had with him.
“When he got to us, we didn’t have quite as many weapons as he had there at Notre Dame and he was learning a new system and so he wasn’t quite as effective as he had been at Notre Dame. Then he got hurt also. That impacted his development. That made it tough to make a solid evaluation of him.”
Quinn remained with the Browns for one more year after Crennel was fired. His coordinator that season was Brian Daboll, now with the Chiefs. Daboll was unavailable for comment Wednesday but Crennel said, remarkably, that he never asked Daboll what he thought of Quinn before the Chiefs signed him.
The Chiefs are hopeful the Browns were wrong on giving up on Quinn so quickly.
“He was only there for three years,” Zobel said. “To me, when a guy gets drafted in the first round and didn’t play a down his first year and starts only three games his second year and then nine the next year, there’s no way to make a good evaluation on him. It just wasn’t a good mix of talent there. That wasn’t a great situation there.
“He never got a fair shake with the Browns. It never got off on the right foot. That’s not how a team should allow a young guy to develop. You should put him out there and let him take his lumps and learn from them. He never had that opportunity.”

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The 2 bold parts just make you go WTF.

I know this has been discussed but considering how little time Quinn has had on the field why do so many people think he sucks?
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:41 AM   #286
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:06 PM   #287
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If we lose this game.....it won't be because of Quinn (unless he plays like Stanzi did in the preseason). It will be because RAC and Daboll ran the same gameplan they ran against the Ravens.
LOL for thinking that Q is going to be awesome. Can he have a couple of good games, sure, is he the answer to all our problems
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:15 PM   #288
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Love that everyone assumes we are going to throw the ball down the field.

Love these assumptions and facts.
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:18 PM   #289
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LOL for thinking that Q is going to be awesome. Can he have a couple of good games, sure, is he the answer to all our problems
if he plays well and we get a real GM in here next year, he would be a better choice than Cassel to have on the roster with Geno.
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:28 PM   #290
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Love that everyone assumes we are going to throw the ball down the field.

Love these assumptions and facts.
Name once where I've said that we're going to throw down the field. I'm hoping that RAC and Daboll let Quinn throw the ball in the 3rd and long situations instead of running ****ing draws every time.

I'm not expecting them to come out and throw bombs all game long. If they're going to run the ball 40 times against the Bucs......they could at least run some play action passes. I don't think Quinn will throw the ball longer than 25-30 yards unless we're down big.
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:29 PM   #291
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By all accounts Quinn wasn't that good in training camp. I'm not sure why people expect anything of him. He'll probably have an okay day like most #2 QBs in their first game. Then, if given the chance, he'll probably regress once DC's get some film and chart his tendencies - just like Orton last year.
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LOL for thinking that Q is going to be awesome. Can he have a couple of good games, sure, is he the answer to all our problems
I've never said that he was going to be awesome. Just because I'm a fan doesn't mean I have huge expectations for him.

What I do think (and have said multiple times) is that he will hold onto the ball better than Cassel has. Quinn can make those 10-15 yard throws that Cassel can't because he can actually get the ****ing ball there. It's all going to be up to RAC and Daboll to put him in a good situation. Running the ball 60 times a game is not a good situation.

I would say that it's a 50/50 shot that Quinn either performs well or shits it down his leg. He hasn't had a starting opportunity since 2009. We're going to see if he's grown mentally in that time frame or not.
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if he plays well and we get a real GM in here next year, he would be a better choice than Cassel to have on the roster with Geno.
My grandmother is a better choice than Cassel. The problem is that it looks like that some people are just satisfied that Cassel is/might be gone, and that's enough for them.

Cassel needs to be gone, Quinn, if he proves reasonably capable can play #2. But we need a real QB, and thinking that Quinn is that QB makes one no better than Pioli in the talent judging department.
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JFC people......

If Quinn lights it up......he is still nothing more than a decent stop-gap QB and a good #2. Even if Quinn is awesome.....I STILL want us to trade up for Geno Smith.
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By all accounts Quinn wasn't that good in training camp. I'm not sure why people expect anything of him. He'll probably have an okay day like most #2 QBs in their first game. Then, if given the chance, he'll probably regress once DC's get some film and chart his tendencies - just like Orton last year.
when Bledsoe was the QB with New England and Brady was rookie, did Tom Brady look good enough with the second string players in preseason that year to beat out Drew Bledsoe?

but he sure did when he got his shot with the number ones after the Bledsoe injury.

not saying Quinn is the next Tom Brady, i'm just saying i'm greatful to see Quinn get a shot with our first string.

if he sucks at Tampa on Sunday, i'll admit he sucks but till then i'm holding out hope.
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Quinn can make those 10-15 yard throws that Cassel can't because he can actually get the ****ing ball there.
If it's not thrown 10 yards over the receiver's head...
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Don't bank on it. Brady Quinn doesn't have the mental game to play in the NFL and Cassel is better unfortuantely.
Eddie Kennison wasn't a good wide receiver either, we get it.
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If it's not thrown 10 yards over the receiver's head...
The way I see it there isn't much point in trying to argue against Quinn. He will show his colors soon enough. Probably a so so 1st game that gives a few small hope but by the 2nd or 3rd game it will be clear we don't have a QB answer on this team.

I am not sure how I want it to play out though. Is Cassel gonna come back in? Really I don't care how it happens as long as it is made clear that we don't have the answer. Maybe a benching of Quinn, followed by bringing Cassel back and a benching of Cassel. That would be ideal, although maybe not realistic.

I just want to know 100% that they are through with both before the offseason so I don't have to stress about it.
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I would love for that moment when Cassel is benched...just to see him publicly shamed...
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I would love for that moment when Cassel is benched...just to see him publicly shamed...
Exactly. I didn't want him out due to injury. I want it made clear that the coaches and FO admit he isn't good enough.
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