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Old 10-12-2012, 02:05 PM  
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What If There Were No Swing States?

Hypothetically, what if, barring greatsocial/political upheaval, there were no swing states, or at the very least, one party had enough states he or she could count on each year that it guaranteed that party at least 271 electoral votes?

Do you think they would move to get rid of the electoral college?

If one party held complete sway like that, would it rip the nation apart?
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:09 PM   #2
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Hypothetically, what if, barring greatsocial/political upheaval, there were no swing states, or at the very least, one party had enough states he or she could count on each year that it guaranteed that party at least 271 electoral votes?

Do you think they would move to get rid of the electoral college?

If one party held complete sway like that, would it rip the nation apart?
We'll know soon enough, when the last of the old racist cranks propping up the R party finally keel over in a couple decades.
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:16 PM   #3
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It's been talked about a bit on here that if Latinos stay with the Dems Texas might be in play as early as 2016 (more likely 2020).

If the Dems can count on TX, CA and NY then I don't think you'll see a Repub president for a long time.

This seems a little far fetched to me but I guess it plays well with your hypothetical.
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:22 PM   #4
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I think this has been the case in a lot of elections. When Nixon beat McGovern or when Reagan beat Mondale, I don't think we had a lot of swing states. So all it means is that one candidate is much stronger. Americans don't like that, so it would swing back eventually, or in a more extreme case the more powerful party would eventually splinter.
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:28 PM   #5
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I think this has been the case in a lot of elections. When Nixon beat McGovern or when Reagan beat Mondale, I don't think we had a lot of swing states. So all it means is that one candidate is much stronger. Americans don't like that, so it would swing back eventually, or in a more extreme case the more powerful party would eventually splinter.
I also think it's likely that they would be rolling out some terrible candidates, which would put some weird places in play that might not have been in the past.

Absolutely power would definitely lead to complacency.
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:29 PM   #6
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We'll know soon enough, when the last of the old racist cranks propping up the R party finally keel over in a couple decades.
Yes, because the Dems never have any old racist cranks.

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Old 10-12-2012, 05:09 PM   #7
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Hypothetically, what if, barring greatsocial/political upheaval, there were no swing states, or at the very least, one party had enough states he or she could count on each year that it guaranteed that party at least 271 electoral votes?

Do you think they would move to get rid of the electoral college?

If one party held complete sway like that, would it rip the nation apart?
Absolute power corrupts, absolutely...the electoral college balances states/population. It should not be abolished, otherwise we no longer have a representative democracy but pure democracy which would lead to socialism, then communism.
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Old 10-12-2012, 05:12 PM   #8
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Absolute power corrupts, absolutely...the electoral college balances states/population. It should not be abolished, otherwise we no longer have a representative democracy but pure democracy which would lead to socialism, then communism.
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:40 PM   #9
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It's been talked about a bit on here that if Latinos stay with the Dems Texas might be in play as early as 2016 (more likely 2020).

If the Dems can count on TX, CA and NY then I don't think you'll see a Repub president for a long time.

This seems a little far fetched to me but I guess it plays well with your hypothetical.
What is the fastest growing area of the country?
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:47 PM   #10
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What is the fastest growing area of the country?
I did a quick search and it looks like the south has experienced the most growth over the last 10 years or so.
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:54 PM   #11
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What if the red states and blue states became two separate countries?
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:55 PM   #12
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I did a quick search and it looks like the south has experienced the most growth over the last 10 years or so.
Yep. The southeast in particular.
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:56 PM   #13
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If Romney were to hypothetically win the popular vote but lose the electoral college, that would be the election result that finally forced major change.

We probably wouldn't amend the constitution, but a whole lot of red states would sign onto the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.
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Old 10-12-2012, 08:09 PM   #14
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If Romney were to hypothetically win the popular vote but lose the electoral college, that would be the election result that finally forced major change.
Isnt this what happened to Gore in 2000? No change...
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:18 PM   #15
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Yup.

Also, political parties evolve. The ostracized party would change its platform and people would shuffle parties, like the Dixiecrats did in the 60's.
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