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***Offical 2012 STL Cardinals World Champions Thread ***

St. Louis Cardinals: 7 reasons fans should feel good about 2012

Posted Wednesday, October 24, 2012, at 9:26 PM

St. Louis Cardinals fans are likely feeling deflated after the collapse that put an end to the team's dreams of a World Series repeat, but there is good reason to be excited.

With all of the odds against them, the Cardinals managed to push their 2012 season beyond any anticipated boundary.

Given all of the season's changes and the adversity the team had to fight through, the fact that they played in October at all was an anomaly in itself. On paper, it made sense for the Cardinals to be in the playoffs, but few saw them as a true threat.
As the season continued, even fans began to doubt as they watched the team seemingly crumble in June and July. When the Cardinals finally came to life in September they went 11-5 in the last 16 games of the season to lock up the second Wild Card position in its inaugural year.

That run, despite it's crushing end in Cincinnati in Game 7 of the National League Championship Series, lots of good came from the Cardinals' season and playoff run.
Following in no particular order are 10 reasons Cardinals fans have to be excited about the 2013 season.

Trevor Rosenthal
When rookie fireballer Trevor Rosenthal made his first trip to St. Louis, it was obvious almost instantly that he was something special.
Between his 100 mph fastball and the general inability for almost anyone to hit off of him, he became a huge part of the Cardinals playoff run.

He pitched in a total of 19 regular season games before the 22-year-old rookie from Lee's Summit, Mo. got his first taste of postseason baseball and he put on quite a show.
In 8.2 IP over seven postseason appearances, Rosenthal held opponents to only two hits and no runs.
It's possible that down the stretch he may have already earned his spot in the rotation for 2013.

Shelby Miller
The long-coveted fastball pitching prospect Shelby Miller also made his first trip to St. Louis in 2012 and put on a good show.
In 13.2 IP over six regular season games, Miller surrendered only two runs on nine hits. His postseason performance was more of the same with two runs on four hits in 3.2 IP.

Despite a dismal first half of the season in Memphis, Miller got himself together and still managed to make one major league start before the end of the season -- a very impressive start at that.
Against the Cincinnati Reds in the final game of the regular season, Miller posted 5.2 hitless innings. He gave up no runs and collected his first major league win.

Expect to see a lot more of Miller in St. Louis early in 2013.

Joe Kelly
When Joe Kelly made his major league debut on June 10, few could have guessed the importance he would play throughout the remainder of the 2012 season.
Kelly started 16 games for the Cardinals this season filling in for Jaime Garcia and Lance Lynn, but it was the postseason when he really came through for his teammates.

When starting pitchers struggled time and again in October, it was Kelly who came to their rescue.
In seven postseason appearances, Kelly threw 7.2 innings and surrendered only two runs on six hits. Kelly came through for the Cardinals from the bullpen.
There's a good chance that could be his home in the future.

Mike Matheny
When the Cardinals hired Mike Matheny to take over for Tony LaRussa, many question bringing in a manager with no experience to such a storied franchise.

He had a few hiccups and growing pains along the way, but for a rookie manager to get his team where Matheny did this year speaks volumes.
His players have a strong respect for Matheny and credit his positive style with being a driving force behind their 2012 success.
True, he didn't get them through the NLCS, but the team made it to an all or nothing Game 7. That's good experience for the players obviously, but also for Matheny. Not only did he learn a lot about managing in the media pressure cooker that is postseason baseball, he also got a taste of what it felt like to win as a manager.

NLCS loss means more drive to win
While the NLCS loss was a good lesson for a young manager, it's an even more important lesson for a young player.
The 2011 championship lit a fire under young players like Lance Lynn and Jon Jay. That fire helped drive them to extremely successful sophomore seasons.

What happened in 2012 will likely do the same for Rosenthal, Miller and Kelly. Their 2013 season may not be like Jay or Lynn's 2012, but now they've gotten a little taste of what it feels like to be a winner.

Both the excitement and the public humbling can be a great experience for any young player.

The run was without several key components
In a season riddled with injuries, none were as crucial as those late in the season.
The loss of Lance Berkman and Rafael Furcal significantly weakened the team's bench. Instead of having Pete Kozma, Allen Craig and Matt Carpenter to pinch hit, the team wound up having to use them in the lineup.

The loss of Jaime Garcia and Jake Westbrook also rocked the Cardinals. Instead of having Lynn and Westbrook also available from the bullpen, Lynn was pushed back into the rotation after a very successful NLDS bullpen stint.

Having gotten as deep into the playoffs as the Cardinals did in spite of the injuries is quite the accomplishment.

They did it without Pujols, LaRussa and Duncan
Few in the world of sports gave the Cardinals a fighting chance when Albert Pujols left the team to play on the west coast. Surely this team couldn't be as good as they were?

Few gave them a chance after longtime manager Tony LaRussa decided it was time to retire.
Few gave them a chance after pitching coach Dave Duncan left the team.
The Cardinals did it despite all of that. That's something any fan should be proud of.

No, they didn't hoist a trophy. There will be no parade or tickertape.
What there is, though, is hope for next year and that will come sooner than you may think.
After all, pitchers and catchers report to Spring Training in just four short months.

From a blog I was sent on twitter: http://www.dailystatesman.com/blogs/...es/entry/50051

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Old 10-13-2012, 12:24 AM   #1666
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you forgot the Braves in 2012. Their pitcher hadn't lost in 23 games. .98 ERA. And he was on early.

Other teams have to be afraid of the cardinals now. These guys are never going to give up. They start scoring a run or two, its got to be in their head...oh shit here they come.
Not only had Medlen not recieved a loss in those 23 games, the Braves hadn't lost any of them.

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Biggest comeback in MLB playoff history.
Well, biggest in an elimination game. Epic all the same.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:29 AM   #1667
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Not only had Medlen not recieved a loss in those 23 games, the Braves hadn't lost any of them.
Tweet from Chipper Jones after the Harper home run:

Gio is lookin good. Rootin for my huntin buddy, Rochy and the Nats! Big first inning could be enough. And the kid just went deep! Ball game!
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Well, biggest in an elimination game. Epic all the same.
Didn't see a qualifier on the MLB network that said biggest comeback evah
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:42 AM   #1668
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Didn't see a qualifier on the MLB network that said biggest comeback evah
I couldn't find the actual stat. TBS, Yahoo, and a few others kept using that as a qualifier. I guess I don't know for sure.
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:39 AM   #1669
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Carlos Beltran raked in SF last year.

Your point stands - it was injuries (notably his knees). But he was a damn fine hitter with SF last season.
DO you know if he got that surgery that Kobe and Arod did? i Know KObe said if he didnt get the treatment he wouldnt be playing anymore and he was considering retiring until that blood spinning thing helped him out.


Anyways, **** the Giants, im going for the Cards to go all. Giants for me are like the Raiders to a Chiefs fan. Imma Dodger fan.
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Old 10-13-2012, 04:15 AM   #1670
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The highlights at 6am et match the highlights from 1 am, so f**k yeah, it happened!
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No, it wasn't a dream.

I think this may be sweeter for us Chief/Cardinal fans than any other group of cardinal fans. We have to see our beloved Chiefs underperform each week. Displeased with the direction of the team. Our Cardinals overperform their talent level. Our future is bright. The young quality pitching that we are amassing is going to gaurantee that there is no window to win. This window of opportunity is going to stay open.
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I think this may be sweeter for us Chief/Cardinal fans than any other group of cardinal fans. We have to see our beloved Chiefs underperform each week. Displeased with the direction of the team. Our Cardinals overperform their talent level. Our future is bright. The young quality pitching that we are amassing is going to gaurantee that there is no window to win. This window of opportunity is going to stay open.
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What a chokejob by the Nats. Wow, bet yeah they wish they had Stras in the pen for that one.

Storen looked like he "pulled an Izzy" and pitched around Molina and Freese putting the tying run in scoring position. Dumbass.
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What a chokejob by the Nats. Wow, bet yeah they wish they had Stras in the pen for that one.

Storen looked like he "pulled an Izzy" and pitched around Molina and Freese putting the tying run in scoring position. Dumbass.
I don't know, you are playing to get one more out. Who is more likely to get that out, Molina, Freese or Delcaso?
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I think this may be sweeter for us Chief/Cardinal fans than any other group of cardinal fans. We have to see our beloved Chiefs underperform each week. Displeased with the direction of the team. Our Cardinals overperform their talent level. Our future is bright. The young quality pitching that we are amassing is going to gaurantee that there is no window to win. This window of opportunity is going to stay open.
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I don't know, you are playing to get one more out. Who is more likely to get that out, Molina, Freese or Delcaso?
NEVER put the tying run on base much less scoring position, it's dumb. The odds of any slapdick hitting a single are too great...unless you are going up against a heavily armored, roided Barry Bonds or something.
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