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Old 10-17-2012, 10:20 AM  
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Will Obama supporters riot if he loses?

Personally, i dont think we will see any rioting. Maybe only if we see something like in 2000 where there is a voting controversy, then i could see it.



http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...ct-nov-6-riots


Police departments around the nation are not anticipating civil unrest on Election Day despite arguments between liberals and conservatives over whether President Obama’s defeat could spark riots.

In 2008, police departments in Oakland, Chicago, Detroit and Philadelphia revealed they were taking special precautions in case public reaction to the election spiraled out of control.

Tensions were running high four years ago after the disputed results of the 2000 presidential election and long lines at polling places in poor urban areas in 2004.

James Carville said a month before Obama’s historic victory in 2008 that “it would be very, very, very dramatic out there” if Obama lost, a statement that some commentators interpreted as predicting riots.

Police departments appear much less concerned about this year’s election.

Spokesmen for the Detroit and Philadelphia police departments said no special measures would be deployed for Election Night.

“We’re not anticipating civil unrest on Election Night,” said a spokesman for the Detroit police department who did not give his name. “We’re going to collect the ballots like we usually do. If a situation arises and we need to respond, we’ll respond to the scene and assess.”

In 2008, James Tate, then the second deputy chief of the department, told The Hill that extra manpower would be assigned on Election Night and noted that police had to control rioters who vandalized cars after the Tigers won the 1984 World Series.

Spokesmen for police departments in Philadelphia, Baltimore, Cleveland, Columbus, Miami, Houston and Los Angeles likewise said they were not aware of any special preparations for civil unrest.

Civil rights leaders say they are concerned about disputes over who is allowed to vote and warn there could be a loud public response if poor and minority voters feel they are being disenfranchised.

“I think there are some people that are deeply concerned that we may have something more akin to the shenanigans we experienced in 2000,” said Hilary Shelton, Washington bureau director of the NAACP.

But they do not anticipate rioting.

“I think you could see people demonstrating and raising concerns, as we do in our democratic process when something doesn’t go right, when we feel we’re being short[changed] or otherwise cheated,” Shelton said. “I think we’ve seen these things happen in very nonviolent ways. If your question is about moral outrage, I think there would be a demonstration of moral outrage if we experience anything like the shenanigans of 2000.”

Tensions have mounted between conservative-leaning groups on the lookout for voter fraud and liberal-leaning civil rights groups concerned that citizens could be unfairly turned away or intimidated.

“There is a concern that if left unchecked, some of these practices could result in thousands of votes being denied or not counted,” said Wade Henderson, president and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights.

Henderson and allied advocates are concerned about poorly trained poll workers who mistakenly turn away voters for not having photo identification in precincts where they are not required by law; they are worried about third-party challengers who arbitrarily question the rights of Latino and African-American citizens.

Henderson said True the Vote, a voter-fraud group that grew out of the Tea Party movement, “have in effect said they’re going to target certain states and precincts with the sole purpose of intimidating voters who might otherwise cast votes unfettered.”

But Henderson said he would not “venture down that path” when asked whether civil unrest or riots could break out if there was a widespread perception that the election was stolen.

“The American people are more thoughtful than these I think somewhat specious predictions of disruption would seem to suggest,” he said. “This is not the 2008 election; an African-American is currently the president. I think people expect that when citizens cast their vote, those votes will be counted fairly.”

Even so, the Leadership Conference and other groups have requested that a European-based international group send monitors to oversee the U.S. election next month.

Civil rights groups met with representatives from the Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe on Tuesday to discuss the monitoring of those states that have witnessed fierce disputes over election law.

Data released Tuesday by Public Policy Polling showed a majority of Republicans and Democrats in several swing states believe the other party will engage in fraud.

In Ohio, 62 percent of Republicans think Democrats will use fraudulent tactics to ensure Obama’s reelection, while 50 percent of Democrats thought Republicans would resort to voter fraud.

In Florida, 60 percent of Republicans and 55 percent of Democrats suspected the opposing party of illicit manipulation, while in North Carolina, 69 percent of Republicans and 51 percent of Democrats expected fraud.

“If it’s a close election, it’s safe to say it’s going to get ugly,” Public Policy Polling stated in a memo accompanying the surveys.

Speculation about civil unrest and possible rioting following the election is a sensitive and charged topic that has sparked accusations on both sides.

The liberal website ThinkProgress.org on Tuesday accused the conservative-leaning website Infowars.com of fanning fears of riots in minority communities if Obama loses.

“The Drudge Report, Mitt Romney’s favorite website, is stirring up another race-baiting conspiracy theory,” ThinkProgress.org wrote after the Drudge Report linked to an Infowars article that reported, “Obama supporters continue to threaten to riot if Mitt Romney wins the presidential election, raising the prospect of civil unrest if Obama fails to secure a second term.”

Conservative author Ann Coulter said in a recent interview with Fox’s Sean Hannity that liberals are themselves spreading panic about post-election riots.

“The threats to riot and the claim that abortion will somehow miraculously be illegal in places like California and New York is not going to swing the undecided voters here, Sean,” Coulter said, “though I will note that white liberals are always threatening black riots whenever they’re about to lose an election. Al Gore did it in 2000.”
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Old 10-18-2012, 06:14 PM   #31
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Come on people...right wingers don't riot. If Obama loses, I anticipate a huge cry of racism and a license to riot by the inner city folks. They like to riot. I hope I'm wrong...but I doubt it.

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Old 10-18-2012, 06:22 PM   #32
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Come on people...right wingers don't riot. If Obama loses, I anticipate a huge cry of racism and a license to riot by the inner city folks. They like to riot. I hope I'm wrong...but I doubt it.

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Old 10-18-2012, 06:28 PM   #33
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If anything, Obama wins and the right wing nutters will go insane and domestic terrorism will spike.
I'm just curious, this is an honest question, not being a smart ass at all this time: have you ever looked at this whole game like a WWF match rooting for (hell I don't know haven't watched WWF since I was 12) where you feel like you're a dumbass rooting for one guy and as soon as the curtain closes and they walk into the locker room their shaking hands congratulating each other on the good performance?

Because, call me crazy, I'm pretty sure that's what it is. No, ya know, what? I'm sure of it. We're rooting for Rick Flair vs George the Animal Steel.

It's a ****ing joke. The guys pulling the strings are behind the curtain and, smartly I might add, out of sight.
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Old 10-18-2012, 06:30 PM   #34
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Come on people...right wingers don't riot. If Obama loses, I anticipate a huge cry of racism and a license to riot by the inner city folks. They like to riot. I hope I'm wrong...but I doubt it.

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Old 10-18-2012, 08:53 PM   #35
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KUHNER: Obama backers threaten postelection violence
Grievance politics have set the stage for mayhem



President Obama’s supporters are threatening riots and violence should he be defeated in November. Mr. Obama is in deep trouble. He was trounced by his Republican rival, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, in the first presidential debate. Since then, Mr. Obama’s aura of invincibility — carefully cultivated by the establishment media — has been shattered. He has been exposed as an incompetent and arrogant socialist whose policies have failed to revive the economy. His angry second debate performance did not reverse his downward trajectory. His followers are now panicking. Some are demanding that blood flow in the streets should he lose the election. Hope and change have given way to rage and fury.

Last weekend, thousands of pro-Obama Twitter account users vowed to start a race war if Mr. Obama is not re-elected. Many pledged to burn down homes and shops. Laden with obscenities and racist language against whites, the tweets reveal the radical left’s anti-democratic, thuggish nature. “If Obama don’t [sic] win lets [sic] start a riot so Romney know [sic] what he’s getting himself into,” wrote one. Another tweet stated: “If Romney wins im [sic] goin [sic] on a rampage.” There were countless such threats, most of them much more vile, graphic and chilling — not fit for publication in a newspaper.

After the second debate, there was an explosion of tweets calling for Mr. Romney to be killed if he wins in November. “Already planning my attack,” said one. “Somebody should assassinate Romney,” wrote another. Besides Fox News and the Drudge Report, however, major media outlets have refused to even mention the story. The reason is simple: It shows — in stark, irrefutable detail — the intolerance and hatred of many liberals. Contrary to myth, revolutionary violence has been an intrinsic part of socialism’s march to power. Vladimir Lenin, Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez — together they have slaughtered tens of millions in the service of their ideology. In America, it has been predominantly the left and not the right that has engaged in heinous acts. Timothy McVeigh is the obvious exception. The Weather Underground, the Black Panthers, the Nation of Islam, the Unabomber, eco-terrorists and the Occupy Wall Street movement, however, have championed violence to advance their anti-capitalist, anti-American agenda.

The establishment media’s hypocrisy is stunning. Imagine if the situation were reversed: Three weeks prior to the election, thousands of Romney supporters threatened to not only riot, but also assassinate the president should their candidate lose. The national uproar would be deafening. The New York Times, the Washington Post, National Public Radio, the Associated Press, along with Democratic media hacks such as Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow, Brian Williams, Katie Couric, Diane Sawyer, Bob Schieffer, David Gregory and Wolf Blitzer (and many others) would be screaming for Mr. Romney and the GOP to disavow those comments. They would be right. Yet now, when it comes to threats against Mr. Romney, there is only silence.

Since the birth of the Tea Party, the liberal media have desperately sought to portray the movement as racist and extremist — a sanitized version of the Ku Klux Klan. Signs at Tea Party rallies comparing Mr. Obama to the Joker were denounced as menacing. Several placards stating that Mr. Obama’s big-government policies equaled the Soviet hammer and sickle were deemed incendiary. Many liberals to this day — without a shred of evidence — continue to maintain the fiction that the n-word was spewed against black members of Congress at a rally just prior to the passage of Obamacare. For nearly four years, the press corps has peddled one overriding narrative: Opposition to Mr. Obama is based on white bigotry.

Hence, it should come as no surprise that by relentlessly injecting racial vitriol, Democrats and their media allies have sown the seeds of widespread fear and loathing among swaths of Obama supporters. Just recently, the Obama campaign’s co-chairman, actress Eva Longoria, made her brilliant case for the president. “I have no idea why any woman/minority can vote for Romney,” her tweet read. “You have to be stupid to vote for such a racist/misogynistic” individual.

According to the deranged left, Mr. Romney is the second coming of George Wallace.

Race-baiting also has been practiced by senior administration officials, including Mr. Obama. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. charges that voter identification laws are akin to “poll taxes” once used by Southern segregationists to deny blacks the right to vote. Mr. Holder — reinforced by the Congressional Black Caucus — even claims that Republicans are engaged in systematic efforts at “voter suppression.” The president has fanned the flames of racial division by needlessly and prematurely passing judgment on the Trayvon Martin shooting case. He has referred to his critics as “enemies” who should be “punished.” In short, the administration has fractured America along racial, gender and class lines.

The results are predictable and ominous: Many of Mr. Obama’s supporters are seething with racial grievances. Riots after elections happen in Guatemala or Greece — not in America, where power is transferred peacefully. By refusing to denounce these threats of violence, Democratic leaders and the mainstream press corps are jeopardizing the very sinews of our republic.


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Old 10-18-2012, 09:01 PM   #36
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If Obama wins. Can you & I start a new band & call ourselves
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Why not? Can you play a kazoo or maybe a washboard?
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:04 PM   #37
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There may be some random violence but mostly O's minions will just drink their welfare checks away.
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:09 PM   #38
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I'm just curious, this is an honest question, not being a smart ass at all this time: have you ever looked at this whole game like a WWF match rooting for (hell I don't know haven't watched WWF since I was 12) where you feel like you're a dumbass rooting for one guy and as soon as the curtain closes and they walk into the locker room their shaking hands congratulating each other on the good performance?

Because, call me crazy, I'm pretty sure that's what it is. No, ya know, what? I'm sure of it. We're rooting for Rick Flair vs George the Animal Steel.

It's a ****ing joke. The guys pulling the strings are behind the curtain and, smartly I might add, out of sight.
I dunno. This time it really seems like these guys do NOT like each other at all. In fact, this is the first election that feels like the two sides are polar opposites. I know it's easier to believe that they are all the same, and I suppose I could be wrong. But I really think this election gives us a true line of differentiation between candidates, more than I can remember.
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There may be some random violence but mostly O's minions will just drink their welfare checks away.
This. I doubt it will be anything organized, but it will happen. Look for economically depressed areas of minorities to riot. It's sad.
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Personally, i dont think we will see any rioting. Maybe only if we see something like in 2000 where there is a voting controversy, then i could see it.



http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...ct-nov-6-riots


Police departments around the nation are not anticipating civil unrest on Election Day despite arguments between liberals and conservatives over whether President Obama’s defeat could spark riots.

In 2008, police departments in Oakland, Chicago, Detroit and Philadelphia revealed they were taking special precautions in case public reaction to the election spiraled out of control.

Tensions were running high four years ago after the disputed results of the 2000 presidential election and long lines at polling places in poor urban areas in 2004.

James Carville said a month before Obama’s historic victory in 2008 that “it would be very, very, very dramatic out there” if Obama lost, a statement that some commentators interpreted as predicting riots.

Police departments appear much less concerned about this year’s election.

Spokesmen for the Detroit and Philadelphia police departments said no special measures would be deployed for Election Night.

“We’re not anticipating civil unrest on Election Night,” said a spokesman for the Detroit police department who did not give his name. “We’re going to collect the ballots like we usually do. If a situation arises and we need to respond, we’ll respond to the scene and assess.”

In 2008, James Tate, then the second deputy chief of the department, told The Hill that extra manpower would be assigned on Election Night and noted that police had to control rioters who vandalized cars after the Tigers won the 1984 World Series.

Spokesmen for police departments in Philadelphia, Baltimore, Cleveland, Columbus, Miami, Houston and Los Angeles likewise said they were not aware of any special preparations for civil unrest.

Civil rights leaders say they are concerned about disputes over who is allowed to vote and warn there could be a loud public response if poor and minority voters feel they are being disenfranchised.

“I think there are some people that are deeply concerned that we may have something more akin to the shenanigans we experienced in 2000,” said Hilary Shelton, Washington bureau director of the NAACP.

But they do not anticipate rioting.

“I think you could see people demonstrating and raising concerns, as we do in our democratic process when something doesn’t go right, when we feel we’re being short[changed] or otherwise cheated,” Shelton said. “I think we’ve seen these things happen in very nonviolent ways. If your question is about moral outrage, I think there would be a demonstration of moral outrage if we experience anything like the shenanigans of 2000.”

Tensions have mounted between conservative-leaning groups on the lookout for voter fraud and liberal-leaning civil rights groups concerned that citizens could be unfairly turned away or intimidated.

“There is a concern that if left unchecked, some of these practices could result in thousands of votes being denied or not counted,” said Wade Henderson, president and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights.

Henderson and allied advocates are concerned about poorly trained poll workers who mistakenly turn away voters for not having photo identification in precincts where they are not required by law; they are worried about third-party challengers who arbitrarily question the rights of Latino and African-American citizens.

Henderson said True the Vote, a voter-fraud group that grew out of the Tea Party movement, “have in effect said they’re going to target certain states and precincts with the sole purpose of intimidating voters who might otherwise cast votes unfettered.”

But Henderson said he would not “venture down that path” when asked whether civil unrest or riots could break out if there was a widespread perception that the election was stolen.

“The American people are more thoughtful than these I think somewhat specious predictions of disruption would seem to suggest,” he said. “This is not the 2008 election; an African-American is currently the president. I think people expect that when citizens cast their vote, those votes will be counted fairly.”

Even so, the Leadership Conference and other groups have requested that a European-based international group send monitors to oversee the U.S. election next month.

Civil rights groups met with representatives from the Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe on Tuesday to discuss the monitoring of those states that have witnessed fierce disputes over election law.

Data released Tuesday by Public Policy Polling showed a majority of Republicans and Democrats in several swing states believe the other party will engage in fraud.

In Ohio, 62 percent of Republicans think Democrats will use fraudulent tactics to ensure Obama’s reelection, while 50 percent of Democrats thought Republicans would resort to voter fraud.

In Florida, 60 percent of Republicans and 55 percent of Democrats suspected the opposing party of illicit manipulation, while in North Carolina, 69 percent of Republicans and 51 percent of Democrats expected fraud.

“If it’s a close election, it’s safe to say it’s going to get ugly,” Public Policy Polling stated in a memo accompanying the surveys.

Speculation about civil unrest and possible rioting following the election is a sensitive and charged topic that has sparked accusations on both sides.

The liberal website ThinkProgress.org on Tuesday accused the conservative-leaning website Infowars.com of fanning fears of riots in minority communities if Obama loses.

“The Drudge Report, Mitt Romney’s favorite website, is stirring up another race-baiting conspiracy theory,” ThinkProgress.org wrote after the Drudge Report linked to an Infowars article that reported, “Obama supporters continue to threaten to riot if Mitt Romney wins the presidential election, raising the prospect of civil unrest if Obama fails to secure a second term.”

Conservative author Ann Coulter said in a recent interview with Fox’s Sean Hannity that liberals are themselves spreading panic about post-election riots.

“The threats to riot and the claim that abortion will somehow miraculously be illegal in places like California and New York is not going to swing the undecided voters here, Sean,” Coulter said, “though I will note that white liberals are always threatening black riots whenever they’re about to lose an election. Al Gore did it in 2000.”
First of all, with all the voter suppression still going on, I'd say it is a problem.

Second, why would Obama lose?
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First of all, with all the voter suppression still going on, I'd say it is a problem.

Second, why would Obama lose?
Why would he win?
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:50 PM   #43
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Second, why would Obama lose?
For a lot of the same reasons Jimmy Carter did.
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Old 10-19-2012, 07:02 AM   #44
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I so wanted to see the Repubs nominate Herman Cain.

At some point i think the repubs need to prop up and nominate a minority to get rid of the "Rich, old white guy" stigma.

Theres things they can do to make more headway into the Hispanic and Black Community vote.
He was one of my favorites in the primarys. It seemed the Dems were digging up more dirt on him then the Republicans were.
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Old 10-19-2012, 07:04 AM   #45
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For a lot of the same reasons Jimmy Carter did.
I never knew that Jimmy Carter was black...
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