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Old 04-23-2007, 09:40 AM  
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:16 PM   #3841
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I wonder how many companies that have a "higher net profit margin" would trade that "higher net profit margin" for a "lower net profit margin" and make 15+ billion more?

I think I would have to turn down that trade and keep my "higher net profit margin."
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:18 PM   #3842
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So they spend roughly $500 billion in order to make that $48 billion?
Net profit margin is calculated by dividing net income (which is revenue - costs) by revenue (x 100).
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:20 PM   #3843
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So we don't really know what they spend to make that money.
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:20 PM   #3844
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So we don't really know what they spend to make that money.
Yes, we do. They are a publicly-traded company.
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Old 10-06-2012, 04:41 PM   #3845
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Donger will be in soon to tell you that is not accurate information.
I went to the a different USA gasoline on the day that I posted this that was right down the street in San Diego (not listed on here, that is my local zip code of La Mesa, San Diego is about a mile away). It was $4.43 a gallon. It was a ****ing madhouse. I've never seen such large lines for gas in person and all because it was cheap at $4.43!
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:15 PM   #3846
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I went to the a different USA gasoline on the day that I posted this that was right down the street in San Diego (not listed on here, that is my local zip code of La Mesa, San Diego is about a mile away). It was $4.43 a gallon. It was a ****ing madhouse. I've never seen such large lines for gas in person and all because it was cheap at $4.43!
Donger says that's a lie. According to his portfolio there isn't any gas that high in the United States at this time.
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:39 PM   #3847
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The state ought to waive the "winter-mix" requirement today. Also, the Governor/legislature should temporarily suspend regulations that prevent importing fuel from other states. At least until November 1st or until the waiver is granted.

Of course, Moonbeam is controlled by the leftist environmentalists who, along with the CTA and public employee unions, are pile-driving this state right into the ground.
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Old 10-06-2012, 06:54 PM   #3848
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Looks like they're using California as a testbed to see if people will pay such high prices for gas.
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:09 AM   #3849
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A guy I work with just bought a new Titan. Doesn't tow anything, doesn't live on a farm, lives in an apartment. His choice which fine.m but he better not get my shit when I make fun of him when gas prices are eating him alive. Dumbass.
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:21 AM   #3850
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I ran down to the super market today and lines were crazy. They had their middle entrance blocked so they could regulate traffic with enter and exit lanes only.

Never seen anything like it before. Barry bet free up some oil from the reserves or something.
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:35 AM   #3851
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SAN FRANCISCO/HOUSTON (Reuters) - The unprecedented price spike that added more than 50 cents a gallon to California pump prices last week ended as quickly as it began, market analysts said, and consumers should see prices fall dramatically in the coming week.

Political outrage, however, was still heating up as Senator Barbara Boxer joined calls for a federal investigation into possible market manipulation.

Prices started pulling back slightly on Monday afternoon, according to online filling station tracker Gas Buddy, after the American Automobile Association website reported they had hit a record of $4.668 per gallon on Monday morning.

California Governor Jerry Brown's decision on Sunday to allow an immediate switch to "winter-blend" fuel was a big factor in driving wholesale prices down by 60 cents a gallon on Monday, market participants said.

"Retail prices will come down as hard as they went up," said David Hackett, president of Stillwater Associates, an energy consultancy in Irvine, California. "It went up 56 cents in a week, it will come down that fast."

The price spike alarmed consumers and politicians across a state that is famous for its love of the automobile. Senator Barbara Boxer on Monday called for a Department of Justice investigation into possible price manipulation in gasoline trading markets. Senator Dianne Feinstein on Sunday made a similar request to the Federal Trade Commission.

Reuters reported on Friday that oil traders said the price spike had "many hallmarks of a classic short squeeze." Multiple trading sources said that refiner Tesoro Corp. was caught short of supplies and forced to scramble to buy fuel from other companies.

Spot market prices jumped by almost $1 a gallon in a matter of days, though trading sources said they saw no signs of collusion or deliberate withholding of supply.

Both Feinstein and Boxer cited the Reuters report of a possible short squeeze in calling for federal regulators to investigate. Boxer, in her letter to the Department of Justice, asked it to "immediately investigate whether any of these traders colluded to manipulate and drive up gas prices at the expense of Tesoro and California consumers".

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Californians have bitter memories of the supply shortages and price spikes that hit the electricity market more than a decade ago and were later found to have resulted from market manipulation led by the now-defunct Enron Corp.

Jason M. Jones, a music producer who was gassing up his Volvo in Santa Monica on Monday, said he was fearful of further price gyrations. "I feel they're taking advantage of the situation in Santa Monica," he said.

California gasoline prices are traditionally among the highest in the country. The state is largely cut off from national pipeline networks and refinery centers, and requires more expensive, cleaner-burning gasoline in the summer.

The recent price surge was initially set off by a series of refinery mishaps, including an August 6 fire at a big Chevron refinery in Richmond and an October 1 power outage at Exxon Mobil Corp's Torrance facility near Los Angeles.

The Torrance plant is now back online, helping to alleviate supply constraints. Brown's order to allow winter-blend gasoline to be sold immediately, well ahead of the normal October 31 transition date, was also a big factor in relieving supply concerns.

"I think prices will come down pretty quickly," said James Hamilton, an economics professor at the University of California, San Diego. "The measures Governor Brown adopted are exactly the right ones."

SLUGGISH PRICES BOTH WAYS

Hamilton acknowledged that some academic studies show it can take a "little bit longer" for prices to come down than it takes for them to go up. But he detected sluggishness in both directions, suggesting some Southern California retailers may have been wary of angering customers by increasing too fast.

"A few stations didn't raise prices as quickly as others, and that created shortages at those stations," he said.

Southern California bore the brunt of the supply disruptions last week and faced the highest prices in the state, with $5 per gallon spotted in some areas.

At one station in West Los Angeles, Rick Lee, a restaurant and club manager in his 40s, said he had not yet noticed a fall in prices. "For now I'm just putting in $40 at a time and not filling up my tank in anticipation that prices will go down or that someone will bail us out," he said.


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Old 10-09-2012, 07:12 AM   #3852
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:15 AM   #3853
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Old 10-19-2012, 03:18 PM   #3854
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Has anyone else seen a sizable decrease in prices lately?

Currently 3.28 in my area. It's dropped .50 over the past month.
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Old 10-19-2012, 03:32 PM   #3855
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Has anyone else seen a sizable decrease in prices lately?

Currently 3.28 in my area. It's dropped .50 over the past month.
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