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Old 10-21-2012, 10:13 PM  
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Mitt's winning Ohio

Face the music, moonbats. America is sending the communist racebaiter back under his rock in Chicago.

Two new Ohio polls came out yesterday after my Ohio post, from from Gravis Marketing and PPP, both of which point to a razor-thin race in the most coveted swing state. A closer look at each poll shows just how much Romney has gained since the debates, and why he would be absolutely thrilled if these polls were accurate on Election Day.

The poll from Gravis Marketing shows Obama and Romney tied at 47 percent. But that’s as good as it gets for Obama. Among the most interesting tidbits from the poll:

Romney leads Obama by 19 percent among independents, 52–33, and holds 92 percent of his base compared to Obama’s 87 percent. Obama is underwater in job approval, 44–50, and independents disapprove of him overwhelmingly, 31–58. And the poll has a Democratic advantage of 9 percent, which is a 4 percent jump from 2008 — no one believes that Democrats can match their 2008 turnout advantage, let alone almost double it.

PPP (a Democratic firm) released their new poll yesterday showing Obama only up one point, 49 to 48. Just a week ago PPP had the race at 51–46 for Obama. But the four-point gain for Romney is even more impressive when you look at the poll’s findings:

This week’s poll has a Democrat sample advantage of 8 percent; last week’s advantage was 4. Romney gained four points on Obama in a week despite the sample’s having four percentage points more Democrats. Romney leads with independents by 7 percent, up from a 5 percent last week. Obama’s approval is underwater at 48–50, and independents disapprove of him by a 41–54 margin. Last week Obama was in positive approval ground at 50–48, and independents disapproved by a much smaller 45–50 margin. Romney’s favorability has gone from a minus-6 margin last week (45–51) to a plus-2 this week (49–47). Trust on the economy went from Obama plus-5 last week (51–46) to plus-4 in Romney’s direction this week (51–47). Independents jumped from Romney plus-5 last week to Romney plus-15 this week.

These two polls highlight what many saw in the second debate: Romney may have lost the overall debate, but he won handily on the issues of the economy, debt, and taxes. While Democrats were riding high this week after Obama narrowly won the face-off, Romney was quietly solidifying support from voters by commanding the issues that matter most. Based on these two polls, the only way Obama can win Ohio is if he finds a way to greatly surpass 2008 turnout with Democrats, which at the moment seems like an impossible task. If these polls hold, it won’t be long before the state Romney was declared dead in knocks down the last pillar of inevitability that Obama has left.

— Josh Jordan is a small-business market-research consultant. You can follow him on Twitter @Numbersmuncher.

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Old 10-22-2012, 11:19 AM   #16
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do we really want a President who believes that he will be a God someday? Terrifying.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:30 AM   #17
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He's going down the Mormon magic underwear path.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:50 AM   #18
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:52 AM   #19
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He's going down the Mormon magic underwear path.
Ah.

Man, I really don't know shit about Mormonism.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:17 PM   #20
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Quinnipiac/CBS has Obama up 5, ftr.
Tell the whole story.

In this sampling, Democrats were +9 (36 to 27) which is about what the actual sampling was in the 2008 election. In the 2010 midterm election, the actual split was Democrats 36, Republicans 37. As always, the real results are about turnout and which side do you think is more committed this election?

The very first thing I learned in a Statistics class in college is that it's very easy to make the results look however you want them to look.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:26 PM   #21
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do we really want a President who believes that he will be a God someday? Terrifying.
Obama already thinks he is

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Old 10-22-2012, 12:38 PM   #22
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Ah.

Man, I really don't know shit about Mormonism.
It's some really weird shit. Magic underwear and hats. Jesus visited in the 1800's. Everyone will have their own planet to rule.

Former Mormons site:
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But, IMHO its not a factor on whether he should be president. Shouldn't disqualify him. Just another part of his beliefs that you should consider if he should be commander in chief.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:47 PM   #23
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It's some really weird shit. Magic underwear and hats. Jesus visited in the 1800's. Everyone will have their own planet to rule.

Former Mormons site:
http://www.exmormon.org/tract2.htm

But, IMHO its not a factor on whether he should be president. Shouldn't disqualify him. Just another part of his beliefs that you should consider if he should be commander in chief.
Hold on....Between your Redneck comments, and now saying one should consider Romney's religous belief's should be taken into consideration should he become POTUS...Dude really ?....We currently have the least vetted POTUS ever, good thing POTUS or most of his advisors never needed a security clearance as most of them couldn't survive the background process in order to get one.

Dude your train is so far off the track it's running on a dirt road....
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:48 PM   #24
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It's some really weird shit. Magic underwear and hats. Jesus visited in the 1800's. Everyone will have their own planet to rule.

Former Mormons site:
http://www.exmormon.org/tract2.htm

But, IMHO its not a factor on whether he should be president. Shouldn't disqualify him. Just another part of his beliefs that you should consider if he should be commander in chief.
Well c'mon...talk about what the libs are REALLY scared about, like Mormons believing in family values, ethics, traditional marriage, and being pro life...man, the stuff that makes the left just shiver.
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:01 PM   #25
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Hold on....Between your Redneck comments, and now saying one should consider Romney's religous belief's should be taken into consideration should he become POTUS...Dude really ?
I explained my redneck comments in the 538 thread.

You dont think a presidential candidates religious beliefs should be considered in the overall view as whether they should be commander in Chief?

Think the pacifism of Carter as an example. But as I said clearly as I could, for me personally his Mormonism doesn't matter to me.
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:01 PM   #26
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:24 PM   #27
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It's some really weird shit. Magic underwear and hats. Jesus visited in the 1800's. Everyone will have their own planet to rule.

Former Mormons site:
http://www.exmormon.org/tract2.htm

But, IMHO its not a factor on whether he should be president. Shouldn't disqualify him. Just another part of his beliefs that you should consider if he should be commander in chief.
a.) Not a factor on why he should be President
b.) part of his beliefs that you should consider if he should be commander in chief
c.) both a and b are correct
d.) wtf????

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Old 10-22-2012, 01:33 PM   #28
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a.) Not a factor on why he should be President
b.) part of his beliefs that you should consider if he should be commander in chief
c.) both a and b are correct
d.) wtf????

it is a viable factor to consider for a presidential candidate. I considered it and found it a non-factor for me personally.
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I explained my redneck comments in the 538 thread.

You dont think a presidential candidates religious beliefs should be considered in the overall view as whether they should be commander in Chief?

Think the pacifism of Carter as an example. But as I said clearly as I could, for me personally his Mormonism doesn't matter to me.
I read your explanation,and it doesn't wash.I find your throwing the term out there offensive and derogatory.

What I'm saying is to throw out Romney religious belief's when POTUS sat in Wrights church for years is foolish at the very least.

You can't bring one up without the other. Then include POTUS's past affiliations too...You really don't want to go down that road.

If you really do have the clearance that's been alluded to, you know as well as I do that a large majority of the people surrounding POTUS couldn't survive the background check.
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it is a viable factor to consider for a presidential candidate. I considered it and found it a non-factor for me personally.
OK. I think I get it now. YOU don't consider it a factor, but other's should consider it when making the choice. Sorry, I may have misunderstood your post on it.
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