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Why people laugh at Creationists

Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

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Here's the Kent Hovind Theory:



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Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:02 PM   #751
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Wow. Who could possibly refute that mountain of evidence? You've convinced me.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:23 PM   #752
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Wow. Who could possibly refute that mountain of evidence? You've convinced me.
I'm referring to the article...read it for yourself...Christ's return to Earth is in Revelation 19:11..while one 1:7 might describe his return, it doesn't indicate it has happened...
..in Thessolonians, we go up to meet the Lord...pretty sure we aren't going up and making a Uturn
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:28 PM   #753
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Judgement must come, there isn't any way around it. God has seen the end from the beginning.
Thats why the christian right is so pro-Israel. The temple has to be rebuilt on the site of the first before Christ can return and the rapture takes place.

What do you think will happen is they bulldoze the Dome of the Rock and build a Jewish temple on the spot?

Glad I got this before it was bulldozed.
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I believe Hitler hated Jews and had a lot of them killed. I dont believe it was anywhere close to 6 million though. I'm not an anti-semite; I just think that number has been severely inflated and there is a lot of evidence that supports this belief.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:36 PM   #754
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Thats why the christian right is so pro-Israel. The temple has to be rebuilt on the site of the first before Christ can return and the rapture takes place.

What do you think will happen is they bulldoze the Dome of the Rock and build a Jewish temple on the spot?

Glad I got this before it was bulldozed.

...it's not going to be bulldozed...the new temple will be a few hundred feet away...and the rapture will happen before Christs return..the man of perdition will be revealed after the rapture..bringing a message of peace.


btw, they are ready to rebuild the temple....time to build? 1 to 2 years.

BTw, ever see pics of the dome of the rock in the 1800's? it was a dump... did you know that Muslims turn their back to it when praying to Mecca?
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Old 10-22-2012, 02:58 PM   #755
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did you know that Muslims turn their back to it when praying to Mecca?
That depends on where the particular Muslim is in geographic relation to Mecca. The legend (also contained in the Koran) is that Muhammad turned his back on Jerusalem and faced Mecca. This was most likely less an act of divine revelation and more an acting out of clan rivalries.
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...it's not going to be bulldozed...the new temple will be a few hundred feet away...and the rapture will happen before Christs return..the man of perdition will be revealed after the rapture..bringing a message of peace.


btw, they are ready to rebuild the temple....time to build? 1 to 2 years.

BTw, ever see pics of the dome of the rock in the 1800's? it was a dump... did you know that Muslims turn their back to it when praying to Mecca?
yes, there is section where there is enough to physically locate one but only after a full fledged out all war has occured.
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Old 10-22-2012, 04:33 PM   #757
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yes, there is section where there is enough to physically locate one but only after a full fledged out all war has occured.
not full fledged..it's called the Gog Magog war... a war of booty..Israel has recently found fossil fuel reserves that are HUGE
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not full fledged..it's called the Gog Magog war... a war of booty..Israel has recently found fossil fuel reserves that are HUGE
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The Human Race would be far better off without it.
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Thats why the christian right is so pro-Israel. The temple has to be rebuilt on the site of the first before Christ can return and the rapture takes place.

What do you think will happen is they bulldoze the Dome of the Rock and build a Jewish temple on the spot?

Glad I got this before it was bulldozed.
Physical Israel has nothing to do with the Spiritual Jews, of which I am one.
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not full fledged..it's called the Gog Magog war... a war of booty..Israel has recently found fossil fuel reserves that are HUGE
Guess who Gog/Magog are? Hint: Neither are Russia.
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I know Missler and the Liars that created the left behind series have a lot of explaining to do at the great white throne judgement. Where was the pretrib rapture taught before a levitating Margaret Mcdonald?
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Matthew 24:37-41 (Jesus speaking) But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days that were before the flood, THEY (the wicked) were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark. And THEY (the wicked) knew not until the flood came and took THEM (the wicked) ALL AWAY; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.

THEY and THEM are clearly the WICKED (ungodly unbelievers).

Verse 40 - Then shall two be in the field, the (WICKED) one SHALL BE TAKEN, and the other left.

Two shall be grinding at the mill; the (WICKED) one SHALL BE TAKEN and the other left.

Luke 17:26, 27 and 34-36 (Jesus speaking) As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the day of the Son of Man. THEY (the WICKED) did eat, THEY (the WICKED) did drink, THEY (the WICKED) married wives, THEY (the WICKED) were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came and destroyed THEM (the WICKED) all.

...I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed,; the (WICKED) one SHALL BE TAKEN (destroyed) and the other left.

Two women shall be grinding together; the (WICKED) one SHALL BE TAKEN (destroyed) and the other left.

Two men shall be in the field; the (WICKED) one SHALL BE TAKEN (destroyed) and the other left.

RAPTURE believers think THEY will be the ONE TAKEN. If you think YOU will be TAKEN, lets see what Jesus says will happen to you.

Luke 17:37, Jesus answers the disciples question of what happens to the TAKEN ONES. Jesus said, WHERE THERE IS A DEAD BODY, THERE THE VULTURES WILL GATHER.

2 Peter 2:5 (Peter speaking) (God) saved (kept safe) Noah...bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly (WICKED).

Matthew 13:24-30 The parable of the wheat and the tares. Gather together FIRST THE TARES. Jesus continues, The Son of Man shall send forth His angels, and they will gather OUT of His Kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity....

Luke 17:29,30 (Jesus speaking) ...(in) Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from Heaven and destroyed THEM ALL. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed. THE WICKED were destroyed, once again.

Matthew 13:47-50 (Jesus speaking) Again, the Kingdom of Heaven is like unto a net that was cast into the sea and gathered of every kind, which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but THREW THE BAD AWAY. So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and SEVER THE WICKED from among the just, and cast them into the furnace of fire...

Once again the GOOD remain and the BAD are thrown away. THE WICKED TAKEN and destroyed "from among the just," who remain on the earth.

I Thessalonians 5:3 (Paul speaking) For when THEY (THE WICKED) shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction shall come upon THEM...and they shall not escape.

Matthew 24:21,22 and Mark 13:19,20 (Jesus speaking) For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be. And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved (survive); but for THE ELECT's sake whom He hath chosen, He hath shortened the days.

How can there be THE ELECT during this time IF they went in THE RAPTURE?

ELECT is also mentioned in Luke 18:7; Romans 8:33; Colossians 3:12; Titus 1:1

Proverbs 2:21, 22 For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall REMAIN in it, but THE WICKED shall be cut off (taken/destroyed) from the earth and the transgressors shall be rooted OUT of it.

Psalm 145:20 The Lord preserveth ALL that love him; but ALL THE WICKED He will destroy.

Proverbs 10:30 The righteous shall NEVER be REMOVED;

Proverbs 11:31 The righteous shall be recompensed IN the (world) earth...

Psalm 101:8 I (God) will early (first) destroy THE WICKED of the land...

Psalm 119:119 All THE WICKED of the earth you discard (throw away) like dross.

Proverbs 25:4,5 Take AWAY the dross from the silver...Take AWAY THE WICKED from before the King...

Isaiah 5:24 and 29:5 The flame consumeth the chaff (WICKED).

Job 21:18 THEY (THE WICKED) are as stubble before the wind, and as chaff that the storm carrieth AWAY.

Job 38:13 (Speaking to God) ...take hold of the ends of the earth that THE WICKED might be shaken OUT of it.

Malachi 4:1 For behold the day cometh...and all that do WICKEDLY, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up...

Psalm 37:29 The righteous shall inherit the land (earth) and dwell therein FOREVER.

Psalm 37:9-11 For evildoers (WICKED) shall be cut off (destroyed); but those that wait upon the Lord shall inherit the earth.

Isaiah 13:9 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger...and He shall destroy the sinners thereof OUT of it (the earth).

Psalm 104:35 Let the sinners be consumed OUT OF THE EARTH (world), and let the wicked be no more.

Psalm 52:5 God shall likewise destroy THEE (THE WICKED) forever; He shall take THEE AWAY, and pluck THEE OUT of thy dwelling place.

The above are just some of the Scriptures that make it CLEAR that the righteous STAY, and THE WICKED GO.

Ezekiel 9:4-6 and Revelation 9:3,4 talk about THE WICKED being destroyed in the midst of the RIGHTEOUS.

Was Job raptured out of his time of tribulation (testing)? NO

Was Joseph raptured out of the pit or prison? NO

Was Daniel raptured out of the lion's den? NO

Was King David raptured out of all his tribulation? NO

Exodus 7:18 through 12:30 records the Israelites were IN Egypt for all ten plagues of God's wrath.

Was Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego raptured out of the firery furnace? NO

Was Jesus or any of the Apostles raptured out of their persecution? NO

Was Paul raptured out of all his tribulations (2 Corithians 11:23-27)? NO

NO RAPTURE, JUST MUCH TRIBULATION

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How can there be THE ELECT during this time IF they went in THE RAPTURE?

Jesus said even the elect will be fooled.

these are tribulation saints..the ones who will be clothed in white robes, not those in fine linen that return with Christ...

...these are people who believed in works for salvation and not faith, therefore their salvation after the rapture WILL be based on works..ie..willing to die in for Christ.

...you're aligning with seventh day adventists and jehovahs witnesses.
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tribulation saints..the ones who will be clothed in white robes, not those in fine linen that return with Christ...

...these are people who believed in works for salvation and not faith, therefore their salvation after the rapture WILL be based on works..ie..willing to die in for Christ.

...you're aligning with seventh day adventists and jehovahs witnesses.
There is only one coming of Christ and only one saved group, it's very plain and simple. You WANT to be the remnant and no I don't align with either of those lolz. We have to go through the tribulation, most will lose their physical lives.
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