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Old 10-23-2012, 11:25 AM  
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Rank the debate moderators.

Feel free to explain why you prefer who you preferred.

Jim Lehrer (1st debate)
Martha Raddatz (VPOTUS)
Candy Crowley (2nd debate)
Bob Scheiffer (3rd debate)
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:47 PM   #46
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Follow up question: "President Obama, your response?"
So no follow up questions?
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:47 PM   #47
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Crowley didn't butt in, she was asked to check the transcript. Romney made a mistake, he got bogged down on one phrase, and it turned out he was wrong. Obama asked for a ruling and got one. She wasn't trying to help him. Obama asked did I say that? The answer was yes.
Based on what rules? No where in the debate agreement does it state that it is the moderator's job to rule on the correctness of a statement.

Look at Bob Scheiffer last night. He could have easily stepped in when both Romney and Obama were saying "check the record" on what was said about the auto bailouts. Scheiffer let both men make their statements, and did not endorse either one as truth, leaving that for the viewers to decide. Candy Crowley should take some lessons from Scheiffer on how to moderate.
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:47 PM   #48
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Crowley was not pointing out a lie, she was interjecting her bias.

Voters have a personal responsibility to do research on who they vote for. As most on the left typically you do, you do not want to hold the voter accountable for their personal responsibility, you want to spoon feed them.

Crowley steps out of bounds in her moderation of the debate. So much so, that I doubt we will ever see her moderate another debate at the Presidential level.

mnchiefsguy, did Obama use the phrase, "Acts of terror" the next day in the rose garden?
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:48 PM   #49
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Crowley didn't butt in, she was asked to check the transcript. Romney made a mistake, he got bogged down on one phrase, and it turned out he was wrong. Obama asked for a ruling and got one. She wasn't trying to help him. Obama asked did I say that? The answer was yes.
Personally, I was shocked. He makes 1 false statement the entire debate series, and gets smacked down for it.

For 2016, each candidate should get two red flags for an immediate fact-check. If you challenge and are right, you get the flag back and the other guy loses a flag. If you challenge and are wrong, you lose your other flag. Problem solved.
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:49 PM   #50
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Voters have a personal responsibility to do research on who they vote for.
And candidates have a responsibility to be honest, accurate, and specific.

If they are not, it is in the best interests of our democracy that it is pointed out.

I see no reason why a moderator can't do that in a debate.
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:49 PM   #51
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1. Jim Lehrer
2. Bob Scheiffer
3 Radatz
4. Crowley

Radatz had to deal with Biden's crap so she had more to deal with then the other 3.
This.
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:50 PM   #52
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mnchiefsguy, did Obama use the phrase, "Acts of terror" the next day in the rose garden?
In reference to Bengazi, no. Did he say the phrase? Yes. But Candy Crowley's interpretation of how the phrased was used was wrong, and she admitted as much later on on CNN.

Did Romeny fail to articulate his point properly? Yeah, he did. And Romney would be the first to admit that. If the President did truly feel that it was an act of terror that day, why did his administration say other for the next two weeks after that statement was made?
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:51 PM   #53
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So no follow up questions?
Fact checking a candidate with a question is not a follow up question you idiot.

A follow up question is asking a related question to the original topic of the debate. Not, "Are you aware that he did, indeed, say "Acts of Terror" at the Rose Garden?"

Example of a follow up question:

Original topic: "What went wrong in Benghazi?"

Follow up question: "What steps will you, as President, take to ensure these mistakes aren't repeated?"
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:52 PM   #54
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Based on what rules? No where in the debate agreement does it state that it is the moderator's job to rule on the correctness of a statement.

Look at Bob Scheiffer last night. He could have easily stepped in when both Romney and Obama were saying "check the record" on what was said about the auto bailouts. Scheiffer let both men make their statements, and did not endorse either one as truth, leaving that for the viewers to decide. Candy Crowley should take some lessons from Scheiffer on how to moderate.
What you are missing here is that Crowley was being kind to Romney, basically telling him, "You're in a hole. Stop digging."

Schieffer wasn't as nice and just let Mitt continue. You should be thanking Crowley for stopping Mitt from doing more harm to himself.
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:52 PM   #55
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:53 PM   #56
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Fact checking a candidate with a question is not a follow up question you idiot.

A follow up question is asking a related question to the original topic of the debate. Not, "Are you aware that he did, indeed, say "Acts of Terror" at the Rose Garden?"
So a moderator cannot provide any information at all to counter a candidate, would be your view.

All he/she should do is work it into a nifty segue for the next question.
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:54 PM   #57
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Did Romeny fail to articulate his point properly? Yeah, he did. And Romney would be the first to admit that.
Then he should about it. And he would not be the first to admit that since he never has.
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Why is it "just" the moderator's job to keep things going?

Why isn't it the moderator's jobs to correct, let's say, a blatant untruth by a candidate?
For one thing, it's because they'd be unreliable if not completely biased in that role.
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It's not always fairly obvious. You can't ask Americans to remember the phrases the President used the day after the Benghazi attacks.
Apparently you can't ask debate moderators to do it either.
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Why is it "just" the moderator's job to keep things going?

Why isn't it the moderator's jobs to correct, let's say, a blatant untruth by a candidate?
Are you really this stupid ?

Something about bias on either side. Moderators are neutral, not suppose to lean either side. It's up to each candidate t stand fore themselves and convince the public of which candidates views are aligned with themselves.
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