Int'l Issues Foreign policy, does it matter who is President?

**BigRedChief** · 10-23-2012, 09:49 AM

I have been dissapointed that Obama kept or only slightly modified too many of Bush policies. Now, we have Romney agreeing with Obama's foreign policy on many major issues.

Maybe they start getting the daily intelligence briefings and it becomes obvious why the policy is the way the policy is, its just the best way for America to handle the situation.

I still think that McCain would have gotten us involved with troops on the ground in Libya and the way he was talking in the campaign, Georgia. That would have been disasterous.

The question is....... At the 10,000 foot level, the big picture etc. How much does it matter who is President?

LOCOChief · 10-23-2012, 09:52 AM

Foreign policy doesn't but the economy does and happens to be the Royal Flush in Romney's hand.

KILLER_CLOWN · 10-23-2012, 09:54 AM

Does it matter? Absolutely
Does it matter with these 2 idiots? No difference

I should add the only positive difference is on Romneys side, because if he's president the media doesn't
see us dropping bombs of love or loving the shit out of someone with a drone. They will attack him relentlessly
because he has an R next to his name. So i guess in that sense Romney is a better choice.

BWillie · 10-23-2012, 10:13 AM

If I had to chose solely based on foreign policy it would be Obama. He certainly would be much more willing to seek diplomatic solutions and less of a war monger than any republican that is put in the white house, but I still have been disappointed with Obama's foreign policy efforts. I thought he had more of a Libertarian view of foreign policy. But, if he wanted to get re-elected it was necessary politically.

**petegz28** · 10-23-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

If I had to chose solely based on foreign policy it would be Obama. He certainly would be much more willing to seek diplomatic solutions and less of a war monger than any republican that is put in the white house, but I still have been disappointed with Obama's foreign policy efforts. I thought he had more of a Libertarian view of foreign policy. But, if he wanted to get re-elected it was necessary politically.

HonestChieffan · 10-23-2012, 10:22 AM

If Obama had won the debate in a major way then this would be your position...Its HUGE.
Obama dis not win the debate, at best a tie. So your position is ....doesn't matter, Mitt said binder.

**BigRedChief** · 10-23-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

If Obama had won the debate in a major way then this would be your position...Its HUGE.
Obama dis not win the debate, at best a tie. So your position is ....doesn't matter, Mitt said binder.

Are you talking to me? If so, I think Obama kicked Romney's ass.

I posted it because Romney agreed with Obama's policies.

cosmo20002 · 10-23-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

The question is....... At the 10,000 foot level, the big picture etc. How much does it matter who is President?

Someday we might get a president who invades a country that had not attacked us and posed no real threat to us. The invasion could lead to a 10-year war costing a couple trillion while at the same time cause us to neglect and underman other simultaneous military actions. Sounds far-fetched, but it could happen.

FishingRod · 10-23-2012, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Someday we might get a president who invades a country that had not attacked us and posed no real threat to us. The invasion could lead to a 10-year war costing a couple trillion while at the same time cause us to neglect and underman other simultaneous military actions. Sounds far-fetched, but it could happen.

Vietnam?

**BigRedChief** · 10-23-2012, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Someday we might get a president who invades a country that had not attacked us and posed no real threat to us. The invasion could lead to a 10-year war costing a couple trillion while at the same time cause us to neglect and underman other simultaneous military actions. Sounds far-fetched, but it could happen.

This is too low of a bar. History will not be kind ot the Iraq war and us attempting nation building in Adghanistan.

mnchiefsguy · 10-23-2012, 05:27 PM

Of course they agreed more in this debate than the others. Was anyone expecting Romney to say he wanted ground troops in Syria or Iran? Was anyone expecting Obama to throw Israel under the bus?

While they agreed in principle on many things, I think they disagreed on the tone of Diplomacy...I envision Romney different as chief diplomat than Obama has been, despite the fact they both want the same results when it comes to Syria and Iran.

ROYC75 · 10-23-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I think Obama kicked Romney's ass.

You thinking too much there Big Guy !

**mlyonsd** · 10-23-2012, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

This is too low of a bar. History will not be kind ot the Iraq war and us attempting nation building in Adghanistan.

Or Egypt and Libya.

ClevelandBronco · 10-23-2012, 06:38 PM

Congress has chosen to ignore its responsibilities, so of course the president is the most important factor.

That's not meant to say, however, that there's much of a difference between these two.

View Poll Results: How much does it matter who is President?
It's the most important part of a foreign policy	1	11.11%
It's a semi-important part of a foreign policy	3	33.33%
It's not an important part of a foreign policy	0	0%
Depends on how extreme the president conducts themself	2	22.22%
Doesn't matter who it is	2	22.22%
Gaz says I don't discuss politics	1	11.11%
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10-23-2012, 09:49 AM
BigRedChief Brainwashed Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Swims with fishes Casino cash: $2265007	Foreign policy, does it matter who is President? I have been dissapointed that Obama kept or only slightly modified too many of Bush policies. Now, we have Romney agreeing with Obama's foreign policy on many major issues. Maybe they start getting the daily intelligence briefings and it becomes obvious why the policy is the way the policy is, its just the best way for America to handle the situation. I still think that McCain would have gotten us involved with troops on the ground in Libya and the way he was talking in the campaign, Georgia. That would have been disasterous. The question is....... At the 10,000 foot level, the big picture etc. How much does it matter who is President?
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10-23-2012, 09:52 AM	#2
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10-23-2012, 09:54 AM	#3
KILLER_CLOWN Be HEALED!!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Fascist State Casino cash: $11109067	Does it matter? Absolutely Does it matter with these 2 idiots? No difference I should add the only positive difference is on Romneys side, because if he's president the media doesn't see us dropping bombs of love or loving the shit out of someone with a drone. They will attack him relentlessly because he has an R next to his name. So i guess in that sense Romney is a better choice. __________________ "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father ... And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." "If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson Last edited by KILLER_CLOWN; 10-23-2012 at 10:01 AM..
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HonestChieffan Hoffa called me an SOB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the Country in MO Casino cash: $1220454	If Obama had won the debate in a major way then this would be your position...Its HUGE. Obama dis not win the debate, at best a tie. So your position is ....doesn't matter, Mitt said binder. __________________ "The best time to sell peanuts is when the circus is in town."
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10-23-2012, 05:27 PM	#11
mnchiefsguy MVP Join Date: Dec 2003 Casino cash: $11113302	Of course they agreed more in this debate than the others. Was anyone expecting Romney to say he wanted ground troops in Syria or Iran? Was anyone expecting Obama to throw Israel under the bus? While they agreed in principle on many things, I think they disagreed on the tone of Diplomacy...I envision Romney different as chief diplomat than Obama has been, despite the fact they both want the same results when it comes to Syria and Iran. __________________
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