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Old 10-23-2012, 09:19 PM  
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USS Obama going down, Libya emails to Obama's administration.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...roup-on-radar/

State Department emails from day of Libya attack show Al Qaeda-tied group on radar

By Chad Pergram

Published October 23, 2012

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Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz2ABA6n3a7


A series of internal State Department emails obtained by Fox News shows some some of the initial assessments of last month's deadly consulate attack in Libya, including one email within hours of the attack that noted that the group Ansar al Sharia had claimed responsibility.

Ansar al Sharia has been declared by the State Department to be a an Al Qaeda-affiliated group. A member of the group suspected of participating in the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi has been arrested and is being held in Tunisia.

The emails obtained by Fox News were sent by the State Department to a variety of national security platforms, whose addresses have been redacted, including the White House Situation Room, the Pentagon, the FBI and the Director of National Intelligence.

Fox News was told that an estimated 300 to 400 national security figures received these emails in real time almost as the raid was playing out and concluding. People who received these emails work directly under the nation’s top national security, military and diplomatic officials, Fox News was told.

The timestamps on the emails are all Eastern Time and often include the subheading SBU…which is shorthand for “Sensitive But Unclassified.”

The first email indicates that U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and other personnel were “in the compound safe haven.” Officials later discovered that Stevens and three other Americans had died in the attack.

The first email was sent at 4:05 p.m. ET with the subject line “U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi Under Attack (SBU).”

“The Regional Security Officer reports the diplomatic mission is under attack," the email reads. "Embassy Tripoli reports approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well. Ambassador Stevens, who is currently in Benghazi, and four COM personnel are in the compound safe haven. The 17th of February militia is providing security support.

"The operations Center will provide updates as available.”

The second email came at 4:54 p.m. ET, with a subject line “Update 1: U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi (SBU)"

“Embassy Tripoli reports the firing at the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi has stopped and the compound has been cleared. A response team is on site attempting to locate COM personnel.”

The third email came at 6:07 p.m. ET and was sent to a different email list but still includes the White House Situation Room address and a subject line of “Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack (SBU).”

“Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli," the email reads.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz2AB9lsYce
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Old 10-24-2012, 08:45 AM   #76
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Why Team Obama used 'blame- the-video' tactic after Libya attack

By Bill Siegel

Published October 21, 2012

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Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/...#ixzz2ADwgBdfW




Perhaps the most under-examined aspect of the blame-the-video story spun by President Obama’s administration following the Benghazi terror attacks is how easy the White House presumed it would be to sell.

An acquiescent mainstream media has for years encouraged an arrogant administration to expect its full support, even it has been forced to acknowledge that the administration has erred, if not lied when it comes to the deadly attack in Libya.

It is equally critical, however, that we the people begin to understand our contribution to this tragedy and how suggestible and easily exploitable we are.

It is clear that the White House did not want to tell us the truth about the Benghazi assassinations -- that Al Qaeda is far from dead or “mission accomplished,” that there were no protests before the attack, and that the State Department and intelligence agencies had quickly concluded it was a highly coordinated terrorist attack.

Is the administration so incompetent that any peek inside would spell immediate disaster for Obama’s reelection campaign? Could some analysts’ suspicions that Ambassador Christopher Stevens had been assigned with originally arming the Libyan rebels and was on a doomed mission to retrieve such weapons be the underlying revelation that must be covered up at all costs -- "Fast and Furious" Libyan Style? These issues will hopefully soon be investigated. But of all the substitute explanations available, why the one which cites a barely viewed video?

The overwhelming tendency for the American mind to accept itself as cause for Islamic rage and violence is easily exploited. When the White House needed a true channel changer, it went right to what it knew best.

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Certainly there are political objectives underlying the choice. The Muslim Brotherhood has allies situated into virtually all US government functions that involve Islam and the Islamic world, from Muslim “outreach” to law enforcement to policy development. I believe that much of Obama’s domestic and Middle East policy can be characterized as aligned with the Brotherhood and its now institutionalized objectives.

It should come as no surprise, then, that the Blame-the-Video tactic would be fully Brotherhood compliant. The Brotherhood, along with the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (the largest Islamic body in the world), has for years sought to bring about a change in US free speech laws so as to criminalize speech that is blasphemous or otherwise critical of Islam or the Prophet Muhammad. Part of the strategy involves demonstrating that such speech is uniquely inciting to Muslims and certain to result in violence: the narrative of the “Fragile Muslim” requiring special treatment for Muslims and Islam. Incremental acceptance of the notion that insults to Islam “cause” violence will “evolve” into banning such speech on the theory that violence becomes, a priori, “imminent.”

Furthermore, UN Human Rights Council Resolution 16/18 sets out to enforce a ban on such speech by treaty rather than through our traditional domestic legislative process. That Hillary Clinton co-sponsored this resolution speaks volumes as to where the Obama administration sits.

Nonetheless, the blame-the-video tactic would not exist without our willing collusion. It is natural, of course, for us to try to minimize escalation following an unprovoked violent attack. Yet more insidious, there is the tendency of much of the modern Western mindset to accept responsibility for the hatred and anger practiced throughout much of the Islamic world. Whether illegally occupying Muslim lands, supporting un-Islamic leaders in Muslim territories, violating Shariah laws in our own land, or insulting the Prophet in cartoons, films, and novels, the critical maneuver is to place the West as the “cause” of Muslim behavior.

At core, there is a profound relationship between the West and the Islamic world that, albeit oversimplified, resembles that between an addict and its enablers. For the addict, the goal is to continue unacceptable behavior without end or restriction and much of his world view is centered upon victimhood; others cause him to be outraged and consequently violent. The addict will rant and rave for so long as he is allowed to get away with it rather than take responsibility for and change his behavior.

The corollary to the addict’s anger is the enabler’s extreme fear -- fear of what the enraged addict might do if left unaddressed.

With respect to our modern Islamic enemy, the threat posed is so terrifying that the Western mind does all it can to change its perceptions so as to blind itself to the true reality it faces. The most ubiquitous enabler technique to keep stability is to accept the narrative that he is responsible for the addict’s behavior.

The dirty secret is that if one is the cause, he can find a way to change the outcome. The dirty reality, however, is that the only way to change this threat is to eliminate it in total; something that even today remains politically unacceptable to much of the West.

Obama must be fully familiar with this relationship as those he surrounds himself with are fully identified with it.

The overwhelming tendency for the American mind to accept itself as cause for Islamic rage and violence is easily exploited. When the White House needed a true channel changer, it went right to what it knew best.

Hopefully, the American mind is beginning to tire of the enabler role and is beginning to seek more accurate perceptions of what is truly going on.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/...#ixzz2ADw7dYaY
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:00 AM   #77
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So, the story remains the same. They were told armed individuals were attacking our consulate. Just because Ansar al-Sharia claimed responsibility doesn't mean they actually did it. Obama waited until intelligence was verified before making a definitive statements about what happened.
Obama didn't want to make a statement until he had all the facts.



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Old 10-24-2012, 09:04 AM   #78
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Why Team Obama used 'blame- the-video' tactic after Libya attack

By Bill Siegel

Published October 21, 2012

FoxNews.com

In all seriousness, this is comically absurd. Just so over-the-top ridiculous it bears no comment except to say "wow, that's dumb".

It's not quite as dumb as 9/11 was an inside job, but it's pretty dumb.
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Obama is clearly in over his head. America doesn't seem to care.
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In all seriousness, this is comically absurd. Just so over-the-top ridiculous it bears no comment except to say "wow, that's dumb".

It's not quite as dumb as 9/11 was an inside job, but it's pretty dumb.
It's just a news article. Nowhere does it say it's factual.

But can you tell us why Obama blamed it on a video ?
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:13 AM   #81
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7 hrs later Woods & Doherty were killed at the annex building......

Again, what type of response did we give this ?

7 hours later ?

Obama & crooked camp has a lot of explaining to do.

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Certainly not scouring liberal sites for talking points before responding...
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It's incredible this is not the Number One news story on every national network and every major newspaper. Obama deliberately refused to send any help to those people, and between these emails and real time videos from the drones, there was not any doubt that they were under attack by a terrorist assault force, not a bunch of rioting riffraff.

The mainstream media has become the Democrat's Pravda, a state organ for the dissemination of their propaganda, and a partner in all their coverups. If this was a Republican president there would already be talk of impeachment and prison time.
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It's incredible this is not the Number One news story on every national network and every major newspaper. Obama deliberately refused to send any help to those people, and between these emails and real time videos from the drones, there was not any doubt that they were under attack by a terrorist assault force, not a bunch of rioting riffraff.

The mainstream media has become the Democrat's Pravda, a state organ for the dissemination of their propaganda, and a partner in all their coverups. If this was a Republican president there would already be talk of impeachment and prison time.
No doubt. The whole country knows what's going on yet the MSM pretends like there's nothing to see here. The friggin' banner at Arrowhead is getting more run that this story...
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No doubt. The whole country knows what's going on yet the MSM pretends like there's nothing to see here. The friggin' banner at Arrowhead is getting more run that this story...
Watching CNN in SLC airport for over one hour and not one mention - not ONE mention. Just Indiana politician rape comment for over half hour and Obama speech, this msm is a joke
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It's incredible this is not the Number One news story on every national network and every major newspaper. Obama deliberately refused to send any help to those people, and between these emails and real time videos from the drones, there was not any doubt that they were under attack by a terrorist assault force, not a bunch of rioting riffraff.

The mainstream media has become the Democrat's Pravda, a state organ for the dissemination of their propaganda, and a partner in all their coverups. If this was a Republican president there would already be talk of impeachment and prison time.
It's astounding.
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Watching CNN in SLC airport for over one hour and not one mention - not ONE mention. Just Indiana politician rape comment for over half hour and Obama speech, this msm is a joke
It's infuriating, and terrifying all at the same time...Once one political party controls the press, freedom is over. Once the majority of citizens get their news from liberal comedians and left wing journalist-apologists, we're done.
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It's infuriating, and terrifying all at the same time...Once one political party controls the press, freedom is over. Once the majority of citizens get their news from liberal comedians and left wing journalist-apologists, we're done.
Or as I like to say, "Journalistas".
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