"We can't kill ourselves out of this mess."

[Direckshun]

Was it just me, or did Mitt Romney say something brilliant and prescient?

****ing applause for the man. Easily his wisest line of the entire election season.

Not even kidding.

Mitt Romney, talking about the war on terror, just rejected every ounce of neoconservativism, drone-reliant warfare of civilian casualties to kill battle-aged men in countries full of brown people.

This is something foreign policy doves have been saying since the turn of the millenia. To defeat terrorism, it is not enough to simply murder a requisite number of bad guys.

You've got to exercise a foreign policy that doesn't unnecessarily incite hatred in foreign countries, and turn down the heat on all the rhetoric and much of the unnecessary, counterproductive behavior that feeds recruitment for these foreign countries.

I think this was the best line of the debate. Bar none. And it's something that's been long overdue out of the mouth of a national-level Republican.

I think Obama won the debate and all that jazz, but credit where it's due. Romney found a winner of a line and an idea. I hope it finds a way to spread.

[Pawnmower]

Originally Posted by stevieray

squandered millions sent to him from Europe to help the Jordanian refugees, and then magically created Palestinians, and blamed the Jews....don't you find it odd ...?

..

Dont YOU find it Odd that you are outraged by Palestinians , yet the Jordanians who you refer to are EQUALLY as created of a people as Palestinians?

Or are you really that dumb?

[go bowe]

Originally Posted by stevieray

No, I said Palestine is a geographical term. There is no such thing as a Palestinian RACE.

this isn't hard.

people refers to a group of people, like hungarians for example...

there is no palestinian race just as there is no hungarian race...

but there is a palestinian people just like there is a hungarian people...

people who lived in palestine before the un mandate were palestinian and the fact that israel was able to basically drive them out of the jewish mandated area doesn't change that fact...

no matter where they ended up, those people and their progeny are palestinian in my view...

[go bowe]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

I'll trust your judgement.

now, now now...

i wouldn't go that far...

[go bowe]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Samaria and Judah, IIRC, it was labled as such in Encyclopedia Brittanica until the early Nineties.

so, there was egypt, jordan and samaria and judah making up the present day israel and palestinian territories?

what was gaza and the west bank called in terms of the ancient lands?

what were those territories called before the british created egypt and jordan?