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Old 10-24-2012, 10:48 PM  
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What kind of HC do you want next?

Pioli is fired, Romeo is shown the door (or in his case will probably retire).

What kind of coach do you want?

A veteran coach who has had success as a head coach before, like Brian Billick, Mike Holmgren or a Bill Cowher (I doubt he leaves TV so soon)?

or...

A young coordinator who has potential as a head coach, like Mike McCoy, Perry Fewell or Mike Zimmer?
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:40 AM   #46
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I think the Chiefs need a bad season. They need to get the top pick in the draft and hopefully score on a guys like Geno Smith or Matt Barkley.

Then hire a coach like Cowher to fix the defense.

Those are the two best scenarios that can happen. We would have a much improved defense and quarterback to go along with really solid running game and offensive line.

Team isn't that far off. I think we would address the two most important components behind winning a bowl. That is, good quarterback play and top defense. That's my reason why I hope a scenario like this pans out. It needs to happen if our dreams are to see this team win a bowl.
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:47 AM   #47
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:51 AM   #48
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I think the Chiefs need a bad season. They need to get the top pick in the draft and hopefully score on a guys like Geno Smith or Matt Barkley.

Then hire a coach like Cowher to fix the defense.

Those are the two best scenarios that can happen. We would have a much improved defense and quarterback to go along with really solid running game and offensive line.

Team isn't that far off. I think we would address the two most important components behind winning a bowl. That is, good quarterback play and top defense. That's my reason why I hope a scenario like this pans out. It needs to happen if our dreams are to see this team win a bowl.
I gotta feeling Cowher will go to Carolina if he indeed leaves CBS.
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:16 AM   #49
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Pioli is fired, Romeo is shown the door (or in his case will probably retire).

What kind of coach do you want?

A veteran coach who has had success as a head coach before, like Brian Billick, Mike Holmgren or a Bill Cowher (I doubt he leaves TV so soon)?

or...

A young coordinator who has potential as a head coach, like Mike McCoy, Perry Fewell or Mike Zimmer?
I want a Jon Gruden type
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:27 AM   #50
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I don't know where you get the impression that I said that.I'm forgetting? I didn't mention him.The reason *I* want an offensive coach is because 1) defensive coaches have a tendency towards conservative play, players and philosophy, 2) the NFL is becoming an increasingly offensive league and I believe that aforementioned conservative mindset puts a team at a disadvantage, and 3) we've had primarily defensive coaches here for the last 20 years. They tried something else with Vermeil, they sort of tried something else with Haley, but the lion's share of time has been spent on Marty, Gun, Herm and now Crennel. I'd like to see the franchise truly try to go another direction, actually step into the 21st century NFL, and do it starting from the ground up, with a drafted quarterback that becomes the face of the team for the next decade. No more 'play not to lose' philosophy. No more hiring other teams' backups as starters behind center. No more parroting other teams way of doing things a couple of years after the rest of the league figures it out. No more old coaches trying to recover past glory. It's time to make a name for ourselves. It's time to actually do our own thing.
I get what you're coming from. But I don't buy into the idea that defensive coaches don't understand the importance of a good QB or would be conservative. Younger defensive coaches grew up in a passing league too. They've had to scheme against QBs. So they'd probably understand the importance of a good QB. And I don't think the newer batch of head coaches are going to be Herm Edwards. And a lot of newer defensive coaches are allowing for a more innovative passing scheme.
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:30 AM   #51
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NEITHER.

I want a coach who has been a head coach before but HASN'T won a Super Bowl.

Most of these guys make their mistakes at their first stop and win it all at their SECOND.

I don't want any coach that has already won a Super Bowl.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:38 AM   #52
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I DO NOT want a players coach.

I want the coach to be a ****ing hardass that will not tolerate his players slacking or ****ing up. I want players benched for not performing.
I also want a coach that is a young up-and-comer, but has respect from players based on previous experience.

Someone like Todd Haley basically. I really liked Todd, it's too bad his career here got injured by Pioli and the QB situation.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:40 AM   #53
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Of assistant coaches only Jay Gruden and Perry Fewell interest me.

Gruden has a extensive résumé as a OC/QB coach but has been a head coach at multiple levels (just not the NFL yet). I'm sure he has the fire in his belly like his brother and would be a hard worker. Comes from a football family.

As for Fewell he is a relative new DC in the grand scheme of things. I love the way the Giants run their defense and how Tom Coughlin runs his team (after he lightened up a little). Fewell has worked under two stern HC's in Coughlin and Juron. He has also spent a fair amount of time at Army as a coach. He is probably the hottest assistant coach name to get a head coaching job after the season.

Parts of me wants to go with someone with head coaching experience. The only retreds that really interests me is Brian Billick, Mike Holmgren (as just HC) or Andy Reid. With that said Reid would have to understand we like to run the ball in KC and he can't just go throw throw throw! Mike Nolan or Jack Del Rio partially interest me as well.

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Old 10-25-2012, 08:01 AM   #54
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I don't think many of you guys inderstand the role of a good head coach.

Also, all this "hard ass" nonsense has been rendered moot by the new CBA. There is very little hitting and physical work allowed in training camp and weekly practices.

The next head coach needs to be organized, detailed and firm with his offensive and defensive philosophies and command respect of his players.

The Chiefs should avoid, at all costs, retreads like Reid, Holmgren and especially Cowher.
THIS. Although I'm not as convinced that hard ass coaches are gone.

From the NFL.com article, Chip Kelley is the most interesting to me. His profile sounds like the kind of guy that can handle an NFL team...the organization and creativity and ability to communicate all stand out. I'm most interested in him. I'm intrigued by Brad Seeley...but don't know enough.

I'm least interested in Mike McCoy. I can't put my finger on it, but I get this feeling that he'll always be a guy that's a good OC, but isn't cut out for the lead chair.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:25 AM   #55
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I know he is a retread, but he has taken 2 teams to the SB and has just announced he wants to get back to being a HC. He doesn't care to much for the GM duties and thus would work with a GM and not try to take control. Check out his record:

Head coaching record
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Team Year Regular season Post-season
Won Lost Ties Win % Finish Won Lost Win % Result
GNB 1992 9 7 0 .563 2nd in NFC Central - - - -
GNB 1993 9 7 0 .563 3rd in NFC Central 1 1 .500 Lost to Dallas Cowboys in NFC Divisional Game.
GNB 1994 9 7 0 .563 2nd in NFC Central 1 1 .500 Lost to Dallas Cowboys in NFC Divisional Game.
GNB 1995 11 5 0 .688 1st in NFC Central 2 1 .667 Lost to Dallas Cowboys in NFC Championship Game.
GNB 1996 13 3 0 .813 1st in NFC Central 3 0 1.000 Won Super Bowl XXXI.
GNB 1997 13 3 0 .813 1st in NFC Central 2 1 .667 Lost to Denver Broncos in Super Bowl XXXII.
GNB 1998 11 5 0 .688 2nd in NFC Central 0 1 .000 Lost to San Francisco 49ers in NFC Wild-Card Game.
GNB Total 75 37 0 .670 9 5 .643

SEA 1999 9 7 0 .563 1st in AFC West 0 1 .000 Lost to Miami Dolphins in AFC Wild-Card Game.
SEA 2000 6 10 0 .375 4th in AFC West - - - -
SEA 2001 9 7 0 .563 2nd in AFC West - - - -
SEA 2002 7 9 0 .438 3rd in NFC West - - - -
SEA 2003 10 6 0 .625 2nd in NFC West 0 1 0.000 Lost to Green Bay Packers in NFC Wild-Card Game.
SEA 2004 9 7 0 .563 1st in NFC West 0 1 0.000 Lost to St. Louis Rams in NFC Wild-Card Game
SEA 2005 13 3 0 .813 1st in NFC West 2 1 0.667 Lost to Pittsburgh Steelers in Super Bowl XL.
SEA 2006 9 7 0 .563 1st in NFC West 1 1 0.500 Lost to Chicago Bears in NFC Divisional Game.
SEA 2007 10 6 0 .625 1st in NFC West 1 1 0.500 Lost to Green Bay Packers in NFC Divisional Game.
SEA 2008 4 12 0 .250 3rd in NFC West - - - -
SEA Total 86 74 0 .541 4 6 .400
Total 161 111 0 .592 13 11 .542

He also is a QB coach who has worked with Joe Montana, Steve Young, Brett Favre and Matt Hasselbeck (all PRO BOWL QBS) and has ties with Jim Zorn. As long as he doesn't get any of the GM duties (which he doesn't want, all he wants to do is coach) then he could take a good QB in the draft and turn this team around.

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"When Randy Lerner brought the curtain down on an ownership that was too long and too disengaged, it also fell on his top lieutenant, "The Big Show," Mike Holmgren. In keeping with the theme of Lerner's ownership, Holmgren himself seemed fundamentally disconnected from his job.

Before leaving, probably sooner and not later, Holmgren this week indicated he might be up for an encore somewhere else. Only not at that team president thing. At being a coach. At the thing at which he's very, very good. "

http://www.cleveland.com/livingston/...as_out_of.html
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This wouldn't be my first choice as a coach, however he could be someone to consider. Flame away...
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:26 AM   #56
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:29 AM   #57
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Naturally i want a winner.
also i want a HC that knows how to gameplan and make adjustments during the games and most importantly he must know how to groom our Franchise Quarterback.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:30 AM   #58
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:53 AM   #59
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Aside from hiring a good head coach, I hope this team could strike good fortunate by finding an OC.

I think the Chiefs have been unfortunate there. Don't get me wrong, I think they've had a few good ones in Weis and Gailey but their time has been short lived.

We need to find a good OC that can also provide longevity, stability and consistency. I'm tired of seeing this team constantly hire and switch OC's. Its hard to build a good offense when you're constantly switching systems/offensive philosophies.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:58 AM   #60
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