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Old 10-25-2012, 01:36 PM   #1
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Wade Phillips.

Can run a great defense. And who knows how good the Cowboys would have been if Pioli Sr. aka Jerry Jones wasn't micromanaging everything.
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:45 PM   #2
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Wade Phillips.

Can run a great defense. And who knows how good the Cowboys would have been if Pioli Sr. aka Jerry Jones wasn't micromanaging everything.
Yeah, that's ALL Wade Phillips needs is a FOURTH NFL head coaching gig.
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:46 PM   #3
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Yeah, that's ALL Wade Phillips needs is a FOURTH NFL head coaching gig.
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:49 PM   #4
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Yeah, that's ALL Wade Phillips needs is a FOURTH NFL head coaching gig.
Yup, Phillips is as demonstrative as they come.

You don't hire the next hot coordinator because you like the schemes he runs. You hire him because you think he can organize and inspire. Phillips is just the pitch perfect example of the guy that can scheme a defense with the best of them.

And can't be a HC for shit.

Norv Turner springs to mind on the offensive side of the ball.

It's much much harder than people think to find a good HC. That's why guys like King are just so foolish to me. Cowher is unquestionably a good head coach and has proven it several times over. Is he going to revolutionize the way the QB position is played? Nope - and that's not his job.

You hire a leader and organizer as your HC, then you go get a guy that can scheme the shit out of things as your OC.

The two skill sets aren't terribly related.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:46 PM   #5
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You hire a leader and organizer as your HC, then you go get a guy that can scheme the shit out of things as your OC.

The two skill sets aren't terribly related.
This is what I've said across multiple threads.

It's early, but I like what Joe Philbin has been able to accomplish for a talent depleted football team. The Dolphins traded away their best offensive and defensive players, drafted a rookie QB and are currently sitting at 3-3 and are a few plays from 5-1.

Regardless of who their GM is in 2013, this team will be poised to make a move because they won't need to tie up their first round pick on a QB and have a pair of second and third round picks.

Philbin wasn't the "hot" coordinator. By all accounts, he didn't even call the plays. But what he was before being hired as a head coach was a pure football coach that was organized, detailed and level headed. His age (51) didn't hurt him at all.

THAT'S the type of guy I want to lead the Chiefs. Not a one-year-wonder like Chud or whomever.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:48 PM   #6
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I don't mean to bust Billay's balls but I didn't care for the Chud nomination and this year, Carolina has fallen off the cliff.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:51 PM   #8
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I don't mean to bust Billay's balls but I didn't care for the Chud nomination and this year, Carolina has fallen off the cliff.
I thought "Chud" was some made-up bullshit.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:53 PM   #9
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This is what I've said across multiple threads.

It's early, but I like what Joe Philbin has been able to accomplish for a talent depleted football team. The Dolphins traded away their best offensive and defensive players, drafted a rookie QB and are currently sitting at 3-3 and are a few plays from 5-1.

Regardless of who their GM is in 2013, this team will be poised to make a move because they won't need to tie up their first round pick on a QB and have a pair of second and third round picks.

Philbin wasn't the "hot" coordinator. By all accounts, he didn't even call the plays. But what he was before being hired as a head coach was a pure football coach that was organized, detailed and level headed. His age (51) didn't hurt him at all.

THAT'S the type of guy I want to lead the Chiefs. Not a one-year-wonder like Chud or whomever.
We're actually agreeing on some things. Too often people get excited about the "hot" coordinator. In many cases, first thing I ask myself is... if this guy has been successful for so long, then why doesn't the guy ever get a head coaching job? Exactly what I said when the Panthers made the idiotic Ron Rivera hire.
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Old 10-25-2012, 04:20 PM   #10
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This is what I've said across multiple threads.

It's early, but I like what Joe Philbin has been able to accomplish for a talent depleted football team. The Dolphins traded away their best offensive and defensive players, drafted a rookie QB and are currently sitting at 3-3 and are a few plays from 5-1.

Regardless of who their GM is in 2013, this team will be poised to make a move because they won't need to tie up their first round pick on a QB and have a pair of second and third round picks.

Philbin wasn't the "hot" coordinator. By all accounts, he didn't even call the plays. But what he was before being hired as a head coach was a pure football coach that was organized, detailed and level headed. His age (51) didn't hurt him at all.

THAT'S the type of guy I want to lead the Chiefs. Not a one-year-wonder like Chud or whomever.
I see where you are coming from and I like the idea of getting a guy who has been in the league a while with experience but, Philbin fell into a pretty good situation. His OC was his rookie QB's coach in college and I think that's a pretty big deal.

What about Dom Capers? Try and get him to come and be the HC and bring in Kevin Green as the DC. Are you completely opposed to giving former HCs another shot?
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Old 10-25-2012, 04:23 PM   #11
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I see where you are coming from and I like the idea of getting a guy who has been in the league a while with experience but, Philbin fell into a pretty good situation. His OC was his rookie QB's coach in college and I think that's a pretty big deal.

What about Dom Capers? Try and get him to come and be the HC and bring in Kevin Green as the DC. Are you completely opposed to giving former HCs another shot?
Dom Capers? Yeah, like Wade Phillips, he needs another chance.



Capers is a decent DC but a horrible head coach.

And no, Philbin didn't "fall into" his situation. He and Mike Sherman worked together in Green Bay, runs the West Coast offense and was a no-brainer selection. Their brain trust decided that Tannehill was their guy and so far, he's playing very well and improving each week.

That isn't "luck": That's a detailed plan of success. Something the Chiefs haven't had since, well, the 1960's.
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Dom Capers? Yeah, like Wade Phillips, he needs another chance.



Capers is a decent DC but a horrible head coach.

And no, Philbin didn't "fall into" his situation. He and Mike Sherman worked together in Green Bay, runs the West Coast offense and was a no-brainer selection. Their brain trust decided that Tannehill was their guy and so far, he's playing very well and improving each week.

That isn't "luck": That's a detailed plan of success. Something the Chiefs haven't had since, well, the 1960's.
Good info. I didn't realize they had worked together. It is a detailed plan for success and it will be interesting to see where it goes.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:22 PM   #13
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Dom Capers? Yeah, like Wade Phillips, he needs another chance.



Capers is a decent DC but a horrible head coach.

And no, Philbin didn't "fall into" his situation. He and Mike Sherman worked together in Green Bay, runs the West Coast offense and was a no-brainer selection. Their brain trust decided that Tannehill was their guy and so far, he's playing very well and improving each week.

That isn't "luck": That's a detailed plan of success. Something the Chiefs haven't had since, well, the 1960's.
Joe Philbin actually has a pretty impressive resume.

He was one HELL of an offensive line coach, that's for sure.
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This is what I've said across multiple threads.

It's early, but I like what Joe Philbin has been able to accomplish for a talent depleted football team. The Dolphins traded away their best offensive and defensive players, drafted a rookie QB and are currently sitting at 3-3 and are a few plays from 5-1.

Regardless of who their GM is in 2013, this team will be poised to make a move because they won't need to tie up their first round pick on a QB and have a pair of second and third round picks.

Philbin wasn't the "hot" coordinator. By all accounts, he didn't even call the plays. But what he was before being hired as a head coach was a pure football coach that was organized, detailed and level headed. His age (51) didn't hurt him at all.

THAT'S the type of guy I want to lead the Chiefs. Not a one-year-wonder like Chud or whomever.
Except Chud isn't a 1 year wonder he's done great things everywhere he's went. Carolina is a dumpster fire but I do agree he would be a tough sell at this point.

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Yeah, that's ALL Wade Phillips needs is a FOURTH NFL head coaching gig.
Yeah, Wade went 9 years without winning shit.

Cowher went 14.

If the Steelers weren't the most loyal team in the NFL, he wouldn't have lasted as long as he did.

Wade got fired after going 16-16 with the Falcons, 29-19 with the Bills, and 34-22 with the Cowboys. You'd have to be stupid to say he's a bad coach.

Funny how Tomlin did what Cowher took 15 years to do in 4 seasons.
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