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Old 10-23-2012, 08:19 PM  
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USS Obama going down, Libya emails to Obama's administration.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...roup-on-radar/

State Department emails from day of Libya attack show Al Qaeda-tied group on radar

By Chad Pergram

Published October 23, 2012

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Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz2ABA6n3a7


A series of internal State Department emails obtained by Fox News shows some some of the initial assessments of last month's deadly consulate attack in Libya, including one email within hours of the attack that noted that the group Ansar al Sharia had claimed responsibility.

Ansar al Sharia has been declared by the State Department to be a an Al Qaeda-affiliated group. A member of the group suspected of participating in the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi has been arrested and is being held in Tunisia.

The emails obtained by Fox News were sent by the State Department to a variety of national security platforms, whose addresses have been redacted, including the White House Situation Room, the Pentagon, the FBI and the Director of National Intelligence.

Fox News was told that an estimated 300 to 400 national security figures received these emails in real time almost as the raid was playing out and concluding. People who received these emails work directly under the nation’s top national security, military and diplomatic officials, Fox News was told.

The timestamps on the emails are all Eastern Time and often include the subheading SBU…which is shorthand for “Sensitive But Unclassified.”

The first email indicates that U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and other personnel were “in the compound safe haven.” Officials later discovered that Stevens and three other Americans had died in the attack.

The first email was sent at 4:05 p.m. ET with the subject line “U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi Under Attack (SBU).”

“The Regional Security Officer reports the diplomatic mission is under attack," the email reads. "Embassy Tripoli reports approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well. Ambassador Stevens, who is currently in Benghazi, and four COM personnel are in the compound safe haven. The 17th of February militia is providing security support.

"The operations Center will provide updates as available.”

The second email came at 4:54 p.m. ET, with a subject line “Update 1: U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi (SBU)"

“Embassy Tripoli reports the firing at the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi has stopped and the compound has been cleared. A response team is on site attempting to locate COM personnel.”

The third email came at 6:07 p.m. ET and was sent to a different email list but still includes the White House Situation Room address and a subject line of “Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack (SBU).”

“Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli," the email reads.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz2AB9lsYce
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:56 PM   #256
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Remember when McCain called for both campaigns to halt so they could deal with the financial crisis that was threatening the ENTIRE country?

Do you think both Obama AND Romney should halt their campaigns over the death of 4 people or just Obama?
Remember you are a democrat & their is no scandal.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:58 PM   #257
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Remember you are a democrat & their is no scandal.
Remember, you're a Republican and Obama shaking twice is a scandal.
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:28 PM   #258
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I will. I most assuredly will. However, what I'm seeing is piece by piece being put together and as soon as someone says they have another piece of the puzzle , a giant monkey circle jerk proceeds lead by Roy who screams "I've got the whole picture."
Don't act like this is not a serious deal here. If you believe any of this, go ahead and stick your head back in the sand.
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:37 PM   #259
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Don't act like this is not a serious deal here. If you believe any of this, go ahead and stick your head back in the sand.
I don't really see how you get I'm sticking my head in the sand because I don't freak every time I see a new piece of the big picture. Not to mention the majority of your "pieces" have been opinions.
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:07 PM   #260
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I don't really see how you get I'm sticking my head in the sand because I don't freak every time I see a new piece of the big picture. Not to mention the majority of your "pieces" have been opinions.
Got it, lies, documents, unexplained events, 4 dead Americans are opinions.

Yep, head in the sand.
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Just redact the names. It's not that hard, unless you're in a hurry to get this done before the election.
Why didn't the Obama administration official who declassified the document (or who failed to classify it in the first place) do that? You're blaming the wrong person here if there's even any truth to the charge in the first place.
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:39 AM   #262
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So your son, father, brother, was just killed in what is now factualy a terrorist attack. The President and his party tell you they will start looking into it AFTER the election, i.e. 2+ months after the incident.

I'm sure you would feel just warm and fuzzy that he was doing what he could for you.
We can let the father of one of those killed tell his story: http://www.commentarymagazine.com/20...terror-attack/

Ex-SEAL’s Father: Hillary Blamed the Movie
Jonathan S. Tobin 10.26.2012 - 9:30 AM

The father of Tyrone Woods, the ex-Navy SEAL who died while trying to defend Ambassador Chris Stevens in the terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, made the rounds of some radio shows yesterday, and the tale he told of his meetings with top administration officials doesn’t put any of them in a flattering light. Speaking to radio talkers Glenn Beck and Lars Larson, Charles Woods expressed his belief that, given the revelations about real-time intelligence about the attack being funneled to Washington, it’s clear that someone gave an order not to save those trapped in the consulate by the terrorists.

But as upset as he is about the failure of the administration to come clean about what happened, his account of his personal contacts with them is just as bad. He described President Obama’s condolences as insincere, said Vice President Joe Biden made a wildly inappropriate remark about his son and that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton promised that, “we’re going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video.”

Woods’ account of the president’s attempt to console him may be put down as the angry reflections of a grieving father, but it does dovetail with much of what we know about the president’s personality.

On Beck’s show, Woods described the encounter in this manner:
“When he finally came over to where we were, I could tell that he was rather conflicted, a person who was not at peace with himself,” Woods said. “Shaking hands with him, quite frankly, was like shaking hands with a dead fish. His face was pointed towards me but he would not look me in the eye, his eyes were over my shoulder.”

“I could tell that he was not sorry,” he added. “He had no remorse.”
As for Biden, the blundering veep’s attempt to praise the slain ex-SEAL did not go over very well:

Woods said Biden came over to his family and asked in a “loud and boisterous” voice, “Did your son always have balls the size of cue balls?”
“Are these the words of someone who is sorry?” said Woods.
But perhaps most damning of all were the words of Clinton, who not only attempted to promote the story of the video being the cause of the attack, but went so far as to promise to have the man who produced it jailed. While the White House has been furiously trying to persuade the country that it always knew that what happened was a terrorist attack, Clinton’s comments are another reminder of the administration’s effort to falsely blame it all on the video. That Clinton would go so far as to push for the man’s arrest for exercising his free speech rights is chilling, especially given the State Department’s prior and subsequent efforts to appease radical Islamists.

Woods’s complaint is especially heart-rending because he knows that his son was not at the consulate at the time of the attack, but rather a mile away in a safe house, yet responded to calls for help. As Alana reported yesterday, the latest revelations about real-time information coming in about the attack makes the failure to respond adequately even more puzzling. Woods is demanding answers that have not been forthcoming:

I want to honor my son, Ty Woods, who responded to the cries for help and voluntarily sacrificed his life to protect the lives of other Americans. In the last few days it has become public knowledge that within minutes of the first bullet being fired the White House knew these heroes would be slaughtered if immediate air support was denied. Apparently, C-130s were ready to respond immediately. In less than an hour, the perimeters could have been secured and American lives could have been saved. After seven hours fighting numerically superior forces, my son’s life was sacrificed because of the White House’s decision. This has nothing to do with politics, this has to do with integrity and honor. My son was a true American hero. We need more heroes today. My son showed moral courage. This is an opportunity for the person or persons who made the decision to sacrifice my son’s life to stand up.

The administration’s apologists have told us that it is too soon for us to expect answers about a complicated matter. It is true that the fog of war made it difficult for the president and his team to respond effectively. But we also know that they seized upon a lie about the video and promoted it relentlessly for as long as they could get away with it. They were determined to do anything to suppress the facts about the revival of al-Qaeda-related groups in Libya. Rather than Woods or Republican critics speaking out of turn, it was an administration that was campaigning on the idea that the death of Osama bin Laden ended the war on terror that was playing politics. Charles Woods’ testimony only adds to the justified anger that many Americans feel about the president’s handling of the tragedy in Benghazi.
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:50 AM   #263
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...k-sources-say/

EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz2AQ9GAadl



Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that three urgent requests from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. Consulate and subsequent attack nearly seven hours later were denied by officials in the CIA chain of command -- who also told the CIA operators to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

Former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were part of a small team who were at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. Consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When they heard the shots fired, they radioed to inform their higher-ups to tell them what they were hearing. They were told to "stand down," according to sources familiar with the exchange. An hour later, they called again to headquarters and were again told to "stand down."

Woods, Doherty and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the Consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The quick reaction force from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the Consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.

At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Specter gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours -- enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.

A Special Operations team, or CIF which stands for Commanders in Extremis Force, operating in Central Europe had been moved to Sigonella, Italy, but they too were told to stand down. A second force that specializes in counterterrorism rescues was on hand at Sigonella, according to senior military and intelligence sources. According to those sources, they could have flown to Benghazi in less than two hours. They were the same distance to Benghazi as those that were sent from Tripoli. Specter gunships are commonly used by the Special Operations community to provide close air support.

According to sources on the ground, the special operator on the roof of the CIA annex had visual contact and a laser pointing at the Libyan mortar team that was targeting the CIA annex. The operators were calling in coordinates of where the Libyan forces were firing from.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told reporters at the Pentagon on Thursday that there was not a clear enough picture of what was occurring on the ground in Benghazi to send help.

"There's a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking going on here," Panetta said Thursday. "But the basic principle here ... is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on."

Fox News has learned that there were two military surveillance drones redirected to Benghazi shortly after the attack on the Consulate began. They were already in the vicinity. The second surveillance craft was sent to relieve the first drone, perhaps due to fuel issues. Both were capable of sending real time visuals back to US officials in Washington, D.C. Any U.S. official or agency with the proper clearance, including the White House Situation Room, State Department, CIA, Pentagon and others, could call up that video in real time on their computers.

Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, were part of a Global Response Staff or GRS that provides security to CIA case officers and provides countersurveillance and surveillance protection. They were killed by a mortar shell at 4 a.m. Libyan time, nearly seven hours after the attack on the Consulate began -- a window that represented more than enough time for the U.S. military to send back-up from nearby bases in Europe, according to sources familiar with Special Operations. Four mortars were fired at the annex. The first one struck outside the annex. Three more hit the annex.

A motorcade of dozens of Libyan vehicles, some mounted with 50 caliber machine guns, belonging to the February 17th Brigades, a Libyan militia which is friendly to the US, finally showed up at the CIA annex at approximately 3 a.m. An American Quick Reaction Force sent from Tripoli had arrived at the Benghazi airport at 2 a.m. (four hours after the initial attack on the Consulate) and was delayed for 45 minutes at the airport because they could not at first get transportation, allegedly due to confusion among Libyan militias who were supposed to escort them to the annex, according to Benghazi sources. The American special operators, Woods, Doherty and at least two others were part of the Global Response Staff, a CIA element, based at the CIA annex and were protecting CIA operators who were part of a mission to track and repurchase arms in Benghazi that had proliferated in the wake of Muammar Qaddafi's fall. Part of their mission was to find the more than 20,000 missing MANPADS, or shoulder-held missiles capable of bringing down a commercial aircraft. According to a source on the ground at the time of the attack, the team inside the CIA annex had captured three Libyan attackers and was forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know what happened to those three attackers and whether they were released by the Libyan forces.

Fox News has also learned that Stevens was in Benghazi that day to be present at the opening of an English-language school being started by the Libyan farmer who helped save an American pilot who had been shot down by pro-Qaddafi forces during the initial war to overthrow the regime. That farmer saved the life of the American pilot and the Ambassador wanted to be present to launch the Libyan rescuer's new school.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz2AQ9SAJsj

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Oh, I forgot, it's not a cover up, it's a riot over a video. There is no scandal.

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Old 10-26-2012, 09:56 AM   #264
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Come on D's and Liberals, tell me this administration is not lying ?
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Come on D's and Liberals, tell me this administration is not lying ?
Obama needs to be charged with Dereliction of Duty:

For before this event, for denying security when terrorist activity was proved to be increasing.

For during the event, for absolutely doing nothing for our fellow Americans there and they ended up being killed.

For after the event, lying and trying to cover this whole mess up.

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the public still doesn't care. Very few of the wingers on my fb feed have mentioned this, and none have more than once.
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the public still doesn't care. Very few of the wingers on my fb feed have mentioned this, and none have more than once.
Well that makes it alright then.

This President is a joke, as are people like you that will blindly support him regardless of stuff like this.

You and yours would be wise to just keep your heads down and your mouths shut when this topic comes up. You're right - the public isn't going to care. The public is also a largely uniformed mob of easily manipulated, ignorant half-wits that ought not have a say in how this government is run.

The fact that the public doesn't care about this really says all that needs be said about the quality of our electorate. Then again, the fact that they put Obama in office in the first place is pretty damning in its own right.

Though not nearly as damning as the fact that they're going to do it again.

Congrats on your boy getting another 4 years. Afterall - that's all that matters. Getting the win is far more important than actually running the nation.
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the public still doesn't care. Very few of the wingers on my fb feed have mentioned this, and none have more than once.
Hey everybody, KC naive's FB feed doesn't care, why should we?
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Well that makes it alright then.

This President is a joke, as are people like you that will blindly support him regardless of stuff like this.

You and yours would be wise to just keep your heads down and your mouths shut when this topic comes up. You're right - the public isn't going to care. The public is also a largely uniformed mob of easily manipulated, ignorant half-wits that ought not have a say in how this government is run.

The fact that the public doesn't care about this really says all that needs be said about the quality of our electorate. Then again, the fact that they put Obama in office in the first place is pretty damning in its own right.

Though not nearly as damning as the fact that they're going to do it again.

Congrats on your boy getting another 4 years. Afterall - that's all that matters. Getting the win is far more important than actually running the nation.
It has nothing to do with that. It doesn't matter which clown is elected.

The hyperventillating over this when we still don't know exactly who was responsible and what all happened is absurd.

I made comments to several people after 9/11 happened that we had no idea of what happened so it was premature to say "bomb (countryname here). I feel the same about this.

Aside from that, do you any of you really think this made it to Obama's desk BEFORE the ambassador was killed?
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