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Old 10-25-2012, 06:46 PM  
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Democrats are calling on voters to vote early!

Libya scandal ?
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Old 10-26-2012, 03:24 PM   #31
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And there is no way to make the campaigning stop one day and then let the public vote on a smaller window than giving them 2 weeks to throw the polls ?

I don't buy into that.
Well, I suppose that if freedom of speech is something you think of as an inconvenience instead of an inalienable right you might not buy into it.
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Old 10-26-2012, 03:26 PM   #32
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It's no problem really. You just have to eliminate freedom of speech. That way those pesky campaigners won't be able to campaign past the arbitrary dead line.
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Old 10-26-2012, 03:47 PM   #33
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You have to understand, the vast majority of America has already made up their mind. This line of thinking promotes a knee jerk reaction to one situation rather than an accumulation of facts. IMO, that's not the best way to come to an intelligent solution.

The only major thing that advance voting has an effect on is voter turnout. Regardless of who wins, I would hope that we all want a great turnout.
You do not think that 2 weeks of early voting allows for more voter fraud ?
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Old 10-26-2012, 03:48 PM   #34
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Well, I suppose that if freedom of speech is something you think of as an inconvenience instead of an inalienable right you might not buy into it.
Well, I don't but was just thinking outside the box vs voter fraud.
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Old 10-26-2012, 03:56 PM   #35
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Well, I don't but was just thinking outside the box vs voter fraud.
Anything that shortens the voting period is good news for reducing fraud opportunities, so I get you. Shortening it back to a single day is best though.
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:15 PM   #36
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Anything that shortens the voting period is good news for reducing fraud opportunities, so I get you. Shortening it back to a single day is best though.
how would that reduce voter fraud? Wouldn't more time to check the validity of the early voting folks reduce fraud?
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:28 PM   #37
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Libya scandal ?
Democrats traditionally do better in advanced voting and it's more reliable to get voters to vote today than to put it off for 2 more weeks. Seriously you can't be this stupid.
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how would that reduce voter fraud? Wouldn't more time to check the validity of the early voting folks reduce fraud?
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:47 PM   #39
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Not the Libya scandal, but early voting enhances the voter fraud aspect. I dont think we need to go any further than the Al Franken certification to realize that early voting/vote counting can be screwed with to the point of certifying an election before all votes are counted or dismissed properly. This creates confusion and chaos in the election process that instead of taking one day, takes weeks/months to certify.
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Old 10-26-2012, 10:55 PM   #41
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It's really about the unreliable voters. People who, if they wait until the last minute, might not vote at all (because it's raining, because they forgot, because they scored a bag of weed and already have enough Funyuns so they don't really need to go out, or just because the lines are a bit long so **** it). If the campaigns can get these people locked in, they don't have to worry about it.
exactly correct.

Obviously Obama is pounding the "vote early" message for the same reason the Republican infrastructure in Ohio tried to shut down early voting in Ohio before a judge told them to knock it off: Dem voters are less reliable than GOP voters.

If the GOP spent a lot of time, money, and resources to pound on the vote early message, they would just shift voters who would vote on election day. It makes more sense for Dem voters who might be poor and in inflexible shift jobs to pound into their skull to go ahead and vote on the weekend when they have a day off.
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