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Old 09-15-2012, 09:19 PM  
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***Official Draft Tyler Wilson Thread****

...might as well get this started early.

Perhaps his injury well allow him to slip to the middle of the of the 1st round,..where we tend to draft.




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Old 11-04-2012, 01:13 PM   #241
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I can see that. Minus the odd delivery. Kind of a Rivers/Cutler combo, as ironic as that is considering those 2 hate each other.
They're both giant douchebags, so yeah.
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:14 PM   #242
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Wilson has durability concerns?
No.

The opposite if anything.

He had a concussion earlier this year...and as others have stated, he is a tough son of a bitch. The shots he takes would put most QBs in this draft out of the game. Wilson gets up when you want him to stay down for his own good...

He is durable.
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:15 PM   #243
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That's not a good thing, IMO.
And people are floating Jason Campbell comparisons around in regards to Geno...
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:16 PM   #244
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And people are floating Jason Campbell comparisons around in regards to Geno...
Who said anything about Geno?
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Who said anything about Geno?
Bucky Brooks,

"Geno Smith- Jason Campbell

He is a big guy, not necessarily the most nimble athlete you see playing most spread systems. He is someone that is going to beat you with his arm. I like his accuracy. I like his leadership. I like his poise. I also wouldn't dismiss the comparison to Alex Smith. He has that kind of game. He could be a top 10 pick and I think scouts are going to fall in love with him."
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:20 PM   #246
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Bucky Brooks,

"Geno Smith- Jason Campbell

He is a big guy, not necessarily the most nimble athlete you see playing most spread systems. He is someone that is going to beat you with his arm. I like his accuracy. I like his leadership. I like his poise. I also wouldn't dismiss the comparison to Alex Smith. He has that kind of game. He could be a top 10 pick and I think scouts are going to fall in love with him."
Again, we were talking about Tyler Wilson. So do you have a point or are you just naturally defensive for no reason?
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:23 PM   #247
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Again, we were talking about Tyler Wilson. So do you have a point or are you just naturally defensive for no reason?
Pointing out that when questionable comparisons are made, it is better to read between the lines than to take it 1:1...

Tyler Wilson is NOT Rivers...but I see more Rivers in Wilson than I see Ponder. Just like Geno isn't Jason Campbell...but I can see the comparisons. FWIW, I do not see the Alex Smith comparison.
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Wilson has durability concerns?
Depends on who you ask and how you look at it. The shots he has taken have proven him to be tough, but have led to the durability concerns in my opinion. I wouldn't say the durability concerns are totally glaring, but I'd say they are moderate. To be honest, less glaring then Ponder, which contradicts my statements regarding their comparison, "every facet of the game," "Wilson = Ponder," etc.

I'm not totally low on the guy....just not totally high on the guy...I think we can do better with where we'll be selecting. Could be wrong though. I wouldn't be heartbroken if we selected him, but would feel apprehensive.
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Pointing out that when questionable comparisons are made, it is better to read between the lines than to take it 1:1...

Tyler Wilson is NOT Rivers...but I see more Rivers in Wilson than I see Ponder. Just like Geno isn't Jason Campbell...but I can see the comparisons. FWIW, I do not see the Alex Smith comparison.
I was reading between the lines.

The only big question mark about Wilson has to do with what's in his CHEST.

That's why the comparisons to Rivers are unfortunate - Rivers has a giant vagina in his.
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Depends on who you ask and how you look at it. The shots he has taken have proven him to be tough, but have led to the durability concerns in my opinion. I wouldn't say the durability concerns are totally glaring, but I'd say they are moderate. To be honest, less glaring then Ponder, which contradicts my statements regarding their comparison, "every facet of the game," "Wilson = Ponder," etc.

I'm not totally low on the guy....just not totally high on the guy...I think we can do better with where we'll be selecting. Could be wrong though. I wouldn't be heartbroken if we selected him, but would feel apprehensive.
Who would you say is better?

Geno has REALLY come back to the pack. Are you that high on Barkley?
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No.

The opposite if anything.

He had a concussion earlier this year...and as others have stated, he is a tough son of a bitch. The shots he takes would put most QBs in this draft out of the game. Wilson gets up when you want him to stay down for his own good...

He is durable.
My question was sarcastic.

I am not in the Wilson camp, but anyone that has watched Wilson and seen the shots he's taken, and the fact that he keeps getting up and coming back for more and suggests he has durability issues is making shit up or a ****ing moron.
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I was reading between the lines.

The only big question mark about Wilson has to do with what's in his CHEST.

That's why the comparisons to Rivers are unfortunate - Rivers has a giant vagina in his.
I'm not denying the fact he can be a hot-head.

But when colonel goody-gumdrops has been your QB for the past 4 years, it would be nice to get a guy who is a bit hot under the collar.

I think all of the shit that has gone on during the offseason leading to a season not meeting the expectations of others has got to Wilson. He tested his stock last year and decided to stay in school, expecting to be running the same offensive system, etc.

Things have not gone as planned for him...
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Depends on who you ask and how you look at it. The shots he has taken have proven him to be tough, but have led to the durability concerns in my opinion. I wouldn't say the durability concerns are totally glaring, but I'd say they are moderate. To be honest, less glaring then Ponder, which contradicts my statements regarding their comparison, "every facet of the game," "Wilson = Ponder," etc.

I'm not totally low on the guy....just not totally high on the guy...I think we can do better with where we'll be selecting. Could be wrong though. I wouldn't be heartbroken if we selected him, but would feel apprehensive.
And yes, if you aren't certain, I am calling you a ****ing moron in my previous post.
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I'm not denying the fact he can be a hot-head.

But when colonel goody-gumdrops has been your QB for the past 4 years, it would be nice to get a guy who is a bit hot under the collar.

I think all of the shit that has gone on during the offseason leading to a season not meeting the expectations of others has got to Wilson. He tested his stock last year and decided to stay in school, expecting to be running the same offensive system, etc.

Things have not gone to plan for him...
As I said earlier, it has become obvious to me that even if Wilson IS a leader, the situation he's in now isn't conducive to him showing he can do it. It's just a bad situation.

It will be interesting to see what he learns from it and how he grows from it. Lots of guys go through this when they're losing and not to used .

Rivers is a douche all the time, even when they're winning. It remains to be seen if Wilson is like that.
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My question was sarcastic.

I am not in the Wilson camp, but anyone that has watched Wilson and seen the shots he's taken, and the fact that he keeps getting up and coming back for more and suggests he has durability issues is making shit up or a ****ing moron.
So be it.

Like I said, it's a matter of how you look at it and/or perceive durability. Never questioned his toughness.
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