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View Poll Results: The biggest reasons that Mitt will lose next week is:
The liberal media's conspiracy 7 14.58%
Stupid voters 16 33.33%
Mitt's a lousy candidate 26 54.17%
The election is rigged! 2 4.17%
The impact of Sandy 4 8.33%
The gender gap 10 20.83%
Mitt's a Mormon 7 14.58%
All of the Above 0 0%
All of the Above, except the Sandy thing 0 0%
Whatever GAZ says... 1 2.08%
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Old 11-02-2012, 11:57 AM  
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So, why is Mitt going to lose?

Poll Forthcoming.

Bottom-line for me: Obama hasn't been great, but Mitt is an awful candidate for America in 2012. For what it's worth, he'd have been a fine candidate for the GOP in the 1880s....but this ain't 1880.

290-248....you read it here.

FTR, the odds are 3:1, or 4:1. So, yes, I could end up being wrong...just sayin'.

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Old 11-04-2012, 12:29 PM   #106
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Old 11-04-2012, 12:35 PM   #107
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:06 PM   #108
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And right there is the reason the R's lost control of the Senate.
That's almost as silly as me saying you're the reason our economy remains sluggish and al Qaeda/radical Islam is again ascendant.
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:09 PM   #109
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This is the standard shill response I have come to expect from any hardline supporter of either party. Not suprised.
I suspect I have a more varied voting history than you do, but that's the kind of reaction I've grown to expect from people who reflect the views around them rather than having thoughtful views of their own.
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:15 PM   #110
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I only drop by here from time to time, but this is exactly right from my perspective. If Romney was more moderate on the social issues (gay marriage, abortion, drug policy), I'd be voting for him. The Republican party as a whole has just gone too far "RWNJ" on the social issues these days for me to even consider.
I think you mean they haven't gone far enough to the left for you. Anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, and anti-pot legalization, for example, are traditional views not new extreme right wing ideas. It's not social conservatives who have changed, it's the center of gravity of the entire population that has moved to the left over time.
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:20 PM   #111
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I suspect I have a more varied voting history than you do, but that's the kind of reaction I've grown to expect from people who reflect the views around them rather than having thoughtful views of their own.
LOL, you're older than me, so I don't doubt it.


I said that not as a slam, per se, but just to point out that you literally never deviate from party lines. That's fine, it just is what it is.
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I think you mean they haven't gone far enough to the left for you. Anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, and anti-pot legalization, for example, are traditional views not new extreme right wing ideas. It's not social conservatives who have changed, it's the center of gravity of the entire population that has moved to the left over time.
They may have been there, but I don't recall the R's being anywhere near this combative about abortion in the past. Aside from that, your assessment is probably fair. However, it's also true that the unwillingness of the party to change with the times is costing them a ton of votes from my generation. I just don't see how it's sustainable at this point.
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LOL, you're older than me, so I don't doubt it.


I said that not as a slam, per se, but just to point out that you literally never deviate from party lines. That's fine, it just is what it is.
I deviate from party lines fairly frequently. Even the post you called a "shill post" (but of course, not as a slam) indicates a deviation from party lines. I don't share the views of the Republican party on many, if not most, social issues.
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They may have been there, but I don't recall the R's being anywhere near this combative about abortion in the past.
Ronald Regan era. The Moral majority and Jerry Falwell went after abortion big time.
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However, it's also true that the unwillingness of the party to change with the times is costing them a ton of votes from my generation. I just don't see how it's sustainable at this point.
It's not. the attitudes changed about gay's in the military, gay marriage in people under 50. They saw it as no big deal. They see abortion as settled a long time ago. Birth control, really? I dont think all the R's are on board with this track but it sure seems that the loud part of it is on board.
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They may have been there, but I don't recall the R's being anywhere near this combative about abortion in the past. Aside from that, your assessment is probably fair. However, it's also true that the unwillingness of the party to change with the times is costing them a ton of votes from my generation. I just don't see how it's sustainable at this point.
I think some of this perception might come from the 2004 election. In 2004, the Bush campaign did what Obama is doing in 2012. They chose to highlight divisive issues in an effort to excite their own base. They sacrificed, at least to some extent, an appeal to independents in exchange for trying to expand the base vote. Obama is doing the same thing right now with his war on women initiative and his Bain is the devil (ie war on capitalism) approach.
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They may have been there, but I don't recall the R's being anywhere near this combative about abortion in the past. Aside from that, your assessment is probably fair. However, it's also true that the unwillingness of the party to change with the times is costing them a ton of votes from my generation. I just don't see how it's sustainable at this point.
I wish we could get past many of these traditional social issue fights myself.
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If the dumbass media would quit asking about abortion it would hardly ever get brought up. They always open the can of worms on it and boom it goes off.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:06 PM   #118
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I think some of this perception might come from the 2004 election. In 2004, the Bush campaign did what Obama is doing in 2012. They chose to highlight divisive issues in an effort to excite their own base. They sacrificed, at least to some extent, an appeal to independents in exchange for trying to expand the base vote. Obama is doing the same thing right now with his war on women initiative and his Bain is the devil (ie war on capitalism) approach.
Yeah, it was sneaky of Obama supporters to coax Republican political figures to express their views about women's issues in a completely moronic fashion. Now that was a good Jedi mind trick!
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I wish we could get past many of these traditional social issue fights myself.
I'm curious as to which traditional social issues you disagree with?
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I'm curious as to which traditional social issues you disagree with?
I'd say I either oppose or am ambivalent about almost all of them depending on what you're calling social issues. Give me a short list of them and I'll tell you where I stand.
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