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Old 11-06-2012, 08:30 AM  
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Dear America, Please Don't Fall for This Shit Again

This election season there's a billowing cloud of misinformation being sprayed into the American psyche like a burping tail pipe on a primered Vega.

And its smoke is thicker and blacker than ever before thanks to the Citizen's United Supreme Court decision.

Billions have been spent for one purpose and one purpose only: to obscure and distract from the fact that Mitt Romney is backing the identical agenda George W Bush did.

It's really and truly that simple.

Lower taxes for the rich, cutting regulations for Wall Street, hawkish foreign policy with in many cases the same neocon foreign policy advisers W. Bush used make Romney/Ryan "W Bush 2: The Sequel to the Greatest Disaster Movie in Recent U.S. History, Available in Imax."

So please, America, don't fall for this con all over again. Taxes for the rich are at record lows. The uber-wealthy and corps hide profits overseas and work the loopholes to avoid paying what they should. And because of the resulting tax shortfall, deficits soar and education and infrastructure are cut. Why in God's name would anyone in their right mind support cutting taxes for the wealthy more? Especially when it's been proven over and over again to do very little for the economy?

And the idea of cutting regulations for Wall Street after the '08 collapse is as crazy as a guy in a hospital gown by the side of a highway waving Barbie dolls at passing cars. With the derivitives market larger than ever we need way more regulation of Wall Street, not less. And worst of all, Romney's hawkish foreign policy is a beat for beat redux of the Bush doctrine of attack at the slightest hint of threat that led us into the disaster of the Iraq war. Call it "the edgy drifter with a knife" policy.

Voting for Romney after the train wreck of that was the eight years of W. Bush is like losing your pay check playing a rigged game of three-card monte and then playing the same game again a week later cause the cards are a different color.

But Obama is a socialist! He's made things worse! What about the deficit?! Stop your witchy liberal word spells!

These objections to Obama are nonsense and lies at best. They just are. This isn't a "liberal" POV. It's just the truth. Obama does have real failings as a president (illegal drone strikes, a baffling desire to make more trade deals, failure to prosecute past war crimes), but being a socialist big spender is not remotely one of them. The stock market and corporate profits have soared under the Obama administration. And the deficit is 60 percent from tax short falls from the '08 collapse and 20 percent from the Iraq war finally being properly counted. Only $1 trillion of the $5 trillion deficit is from spending that was for the stimulus package that stopped our nation from falling into a depression by any economic metric available. The fact is Obama has spent less than any president in 50 years.

Even Obamacare is a private mandate that will drive billions to the insurance industry, much like the auto insurance mandate. Hardly socialism. In fact, it was a Republican plan to begin with.

But Romney and his billionaire backers have twisted facts and outright lied like we've never seen before. And why? Because if they had to stand on the issues they wouldn't receive a vote. Because Romney and Ryan are exactly on the same page as W. Bush. And that page is stained with champagne and sturgeon eggs.

If Romney wins it will be because voters voted for the lies and the brand ID of the Republican party, not because of facts, context and reality. This is the essence of how a con works. The con man gets the mark to respond emotionally rather than logically. Please, don't fall for it. With climate change becoming the biggest challenge of the next hundred years we can't afford four years more of corruption, misinformation and inaction. We just can't.

We must give up on this blind brand allegiance nonsense -- "the Republican party is for self-reliance and America" -- and start looking at the reality of what they do. They ignored warnings on 9/11, making us far less safe, give billions in subsidies to oil companies, no-bid contracts to the former vice president's company, cut taxes for the rich during a war, stand against equal pay for women, froze the budget to drive our AAA rating down. They are corrupt, for the rich getting richer and for dismantling our government including FEMA, Medicare, and Social Security.

And worst of all, the Republicans do everything they can to make it hard for people to vote. This isn't just creepy and dirty. This is anti-American and an insult to all those that have given their lives for our right to vote.

At a certain point if you're voting for Romney you have to look around the room and see who you're with. W, Bush and Cheney will vote for Romney. Sarah Palin will vote for Romney. Glenn Beck will vote for Romney, as will Rush Limbaugh. Rupert Murdoch, Hannity and Donald Trump are voting for Romney. Have these people been right about anything in the past 20 years? For real. Think about it.

This election needs to be the end of the con. The end of "trickle-down economics." The end of the loopholes. The end of no rules for the rich and powerful. The end of veiled racism, sexism and homophobia as a way to distract those you're ripping off.

This era of "relative truth" can end. We can return to science, facts and fairness. But it means stopping this right vs. left, Dem. vs. Repub., North vs. South idiocy. A lot of money was spent to divide us like this and every day that we don't stop and question the messaging this country slips a notch.

We've been having the same argument for 30 years and the evidence is clear: Cutting taxes for the rich, deregulating all the rules set up after the Great Depression and needless wars don't even remotely work, whether it's George W. Bush or Romney who's at the wheel of the belching sputtering Vega.

Seriously, America. Take a beat, think and look hard at the numbers. You're better than this crap. And we've got real stuff to work on together.

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Old 11-06-2012, 01:00 PM   #61
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I'm good with that. For a smart guy you are being pretty obtuse on this one.
Not sure what you mean. We both agree that the guy should burn in the fiery pits of Christian hell for this injustice.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:00 PM   #62
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I voted in a church and didnít see anything like that.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:02 PM   #63
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Both were layoffs and had everything to do with the company and nothing to do with me.
Oh, because you implied it might have everything to do with Obama.

Look, when you post something like that with such direct blame to a politican for your individual circumstances, you're kind of asking for a smart-ass remark. Sincerely though, hope things improve.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:29 PM   #64
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That's funny. I thought by the thread title that you were going to post about why voting for Obama would be a bad idea.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:35 PM   #65
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I voted in a church and didnít see anything like that.
I voted at a Holiday Inn. So does that mean I was influenced by Big Business, shitty hotel food or that hot chick with the great ass standing to my left? Hint: It was the ass. And I'm not referring to a picture of Obama.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:35 PM   #66
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Oh, because you implied it might have everything to do with Obama.

Look, when you post something like that with such direct blame to a politican for your individual circumstances, you're kind of asking for a smart-ass remark. Sincerely though, hope things improve.

Is this the kind of love they teach you at the welfare station? You kickin' that DES wisdom?
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:50 PM   #67
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So we're not okay with huge murals of Obama, but we're totally fine with Jesus Christ being all over the place.
You must be in the victory bottle already.
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So we're not okay with huge murals of Obama, but we're totally fine with Jesus Christ being all over the place.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:52 PM   #69
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Obama is known as The Messiah.
Never heard him called that though I've heard other names for him.
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Let me preface by saying I think all politicians are crooks, even Nixon!!!! With that being said I think most rational people could agree that the best economic times in our lifetime (depending on your age of course) was when Clinton was in office. His administration started with the country in a deficit and was at a nice surplus when he left. Everybody was making money if he/she invested appropriately and worked hard. Wages were up for the middle class while the upper class was also doing well. What changed was that CEO's and the 1% wanted more. They asked themselves what do we have to do to get more? The answer was to put politicians in place who could create policies to put more into their pockets. How do we do that they would ask? We will need to spend some to make even more, is what they said. By spending they meant donate it to the politicians we can buy who will help further our agendas. Such as allow super PAC's so as much money that can be gathered can go to our candidates, take away baragining rights so the 99% can not be organized against us and make sure we can get away with paying less of a % of taxes than the majority of citizens and when that happens you can get some of what you spent back!!!! We can also keep corporate taxes down so when we can ship jobs to China and put hard working Americans out of work we won't have to pay fees to move that work. When the work gets to China we can pay them $0.99 per hour instead of $20.00 per hour with a retirement and medical like we do here in America.

People, the list goes on and on. As I stated, they are all crooks but unless you are one of the 1% the Republicans are not your friend. These elections are not about you and me. They are about economics, ego and control. The 1% will never be satisfied with making millions of dollars. They want to keep it from everybody else so they are not comprimised. They do not want you any more successfull than we are today because the more that are wealthy takes away from their control. Without, what is their idea of control, their ego is gone and they, in their minds, are less than. They will do everything to keep that control.

When less people are working, for less money, as in todays society there is less going back into the state and federal governments. That is no secret but to say we need more jobs is a blind statement that needs more depth. Allowing jobs to be sent overseas, allowing the 1% to hide money overseas, allowing a much greater flow of goods to come into our country than what goes out, is a travesty. Craeting part time work or jopbs that are at minimum wage does not cut it. We need family wage jobs and every company out there is looking for a way to send that work someplace where it can be done for cheaper. Let's face it, buying a Nissan in America is B.S. Buy Chevy, Ford or anything but quit buying this crap from overseas. We are Americans and we do not support Americans, but we should. The rest of the world laughs at us. Much of what we earn goes somewhere else. We, as a society do not reinvest in our own society like we should. I do not believe the Republican party wants anything to do with keeping jobs in America. They are more about making money for the rich than for making sure we all can prosper.

When Mr. Ropmney spoke at one of the debates he said that small business need tax breaks so they can hire more people. I do not believe that is what happens. The small business owners stash that money away for themselves and ask their employees to work longer hours if it starts getting busier. Then they come out and say we can't afford pay increases and ask you for a pay cut and then say that you should feel lucky to have a job! That is such B.S. it makes me sick.

Has Mr. Obama been a great president? No, I do not believe so, but I also know that if the Senate and House would actually work together as they did during the Clinton administration, this country could get back to what it once was. Mr. Obama could have accomplished more. He is being held back by the right not wanting to give an inch and we are all suffering because of it. Think about that. If the right is causing this stalemate then why would anybody want to vote for anyone in that party? Their way or the highway. That is not what this country was built on. It was built by people having different views and working together to come to a compromise to better the citizens of this country. That is not what is happening today. I am sorry to say that I do not believe Mr. Romney is in this for me or my family, he is in it for Donald Trump and those types of families. They contribute huge amounts of money for Mr. Romney's ego and control.
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So we're not okay with huge murals of Obama, but we're totally fine with Jesus Christ being all over the place.
You are?
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:06 PM   #73
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I'm guessing the original post was written by some actor or actress.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:11 PM   #74
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It's incredible how dumbed down this society is. Brainwashed, and easily played. Yeah, America is pretty ****in dumb. They fall for the same old shit over, and over, and over again. Tonight, we do it again. Whoever wins.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:21 PM   #75
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Your vote does not really matter does it? There is no validation process for ensuring that your picks were counted correctly. The entire system is controlled by the counters. Remember what happened to gore in Florida? If you think your vote truly counts that's great. Voting just makes people feel good like their voice was heard but the voting process along with congress do not have our best interests in mind.

Thank god this shit is almost over. No matter who you chose this time, we all lose
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